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Sep 04, 2009, 06:59 AM
Crashing in Melbourne

Loose Magnet ring


I have seen comments and replies relating to individual magnets coming loose.
I now have the whole outer ring separated from the front prop holder.

I am guessing that I just need to epoxy it back place?
Any comments please.
Thanks, Peter
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Sep 04, 2009, 07:13 PM
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AXN Cloud Fly suppliers


there are 2 more places you can buy this model from,seeing that HobbyCity/United Hobbies stocks sell out real quick.

1)RC Castle

http://rc-castle.com/shop/product_in...oducts_id=1297

and 2) this guy on "Flea Bay"

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:RTQ:US:1123

However, unlike HobbyCity/UH, the versions the later 2 sell only come with motor and props.

I did the cost sums between the 3, factoring in the cost of shipping.

RC Castle and UH specify EMS only where as the E-Bay seller will send via Insured air parcel post at nearly 1/2 the price of EMS. Included also the extra cost of buying 4 x HXT 900 servo's and a Turnigy 25 amp ESC from HobbyCity/UH and cost of shipping them seperately as well.

Cost between the 3 alternatives to ship them o/seas from Hong Kong turns out to be negligable. About US$18 difference between the cheapest (HobbyCity/UH) and the most expensive (RC Castle.) and $US5 between the E-Bay offering and Hobby City/UH. This is to ship to Australia/USA/Europe.

For example: When you include shipping on top of your purchase price, suddenly the savings made by buying the "everything in it" kit from HobbyCity/United Hobbies are seriously eroded when compared to the deal from the E-Bay seller. This is because of HobbyCity/UH's requirement for EMS only shipping. Take the E-bay offering, add Air Parcel post, 4 UH Supplied servo's and ESC plus shipping and the total cost difference is around $US5 between the 2!

All is not as it seems!

Take your pick re supplier.
Sep 04, 2009, 11:51 PM
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I got my http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idProduct=6504 to fit. Obviously, modifications were necessary. This should help me stay in the air for a bit, lol...

My next modification is just to solidify the cockpit for future crashes.

Adding weights will be up next since the CG is right on the leading edge. ... those batteries are heavy. Couple pennies will be added to correct this issue.


I will post pics in a bit...stay tuned!
Sep 05, 2009, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaccies
Did you measure the static current at half and full throttle?
Measured.
At full throttle - ~ 19A & 230W (forgot to measure at half)
Looks like the Turnigy 30A should be able to handle. Maybe its because things get real warm in the small cocpit together with the battery.
Hope the ESC will hold up. I'm having fun ....
Sep 05, 2009, 10:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsec1992
Measured.
At full throttle - ~ 19A & 230W (forgot to measure at half)
Looks like the Turnigy 30A should be able to handle. Maybe its because things get real warm in the small cocpit together with the battery.
Hope the ESC will hold up. I'm having fun ....
Can any kind soul guide on on calculating airtime based on this.

Am on a 1500mah 3S

Much appreciated.
Sep 06, 2009, 01:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by janboyz
Can any kind soul guide on on calculating airtime based on this.

Am on a 1500mah 3S

Much appreciated.
Airtime calculation = ( Lipo-maH/motor AMP) * 60/1000 minutes

Say average during flytime 10 Amp
(1500/10)*60/1000 = 9 minutes

jsec1992 measured at full throtlle 19 Amp static ,
this wil be in the air 75% of 19 Amp = +/- 15Amp

so at full throtlle
(1500/15)*60/1000 = 6 minutes
Sep 06, 2009, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaccies
Airtime calculation = ( Lipo-maH/motor AMP) * 60/1000 minutes

Say average during flytime 10 Amp
(1500/10)*60/1000 = 9 minutes

jsec1992 measured at full throtlle 19 Amp static ,
this wil be in the air 75% of 19 Amp = +/- 15Amp

so at full throtlle
(1500/15)*60/1000 = 6 minutes

Thks Jaccies

Guess I screwed up my Lipos with flying about 20mins but lucky thing I always fly at half throttle or less.

Thks again.
Sep 06, 2009, 01:27 PM
Clyde, Ca. USA
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janboyz Do you have a good Lipo battery charger?
I ruined several Lipos before I bought a better charger.
You need to charge them with a balanced charge.
Many posts on this and other threads about good chargers being very important.
Sep 06, 2009, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by john339
janboyz Do you have a good Lipo battery charger?
I ruined several Lipos before I bought a better charger.
You need to charge them with a balanced charge.
Many posts on this and other threads about good chargers being very important.
Its the GT Power A6, with balanced charging.

But fatal crash yesterday as the wind caught it and slammed it down, went through the tree and ripped the tail into 2. Miracle right, the wing only had bumps but the tail ripped. Its grounded till I get it fixed
Sep 07, 2009, 09:25 AM
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Batteries shared between(among) AXN Floater-jet(Floater-jet set) and a BIG LAMA


I AM NEW IN ELFORO AND VERY RAWLY IN THIS HOBBY.

I have one of the helicopter of the BIG MUD and yesterday I come near the last purchase a " AXN Floater-jet(Floater-jet set) ". But I am very raw and even it(he,she) has not flown.
I have the batteries of the helicopter but the connector is different in hobbycity there is algun adapter. Batteries that serve for the 2?
And another question like can install an antenna mas long to the recipient esky 2,4 ghz of the big lick for aprobecharlo for the " AXN Floater-jet(Floater-jet set) "?

Thank you regards
Sep 07, 2009, 10:53 AM
Clyde, Ca. USA
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ROGIS What does it say on the battery? What is it's capacity?
Will it fit in the Floater Jet? You can change the connector so it will fit the Jet.
I change all my connectors to the same kind so I can move batteries from one to the other.
You don't need a longer wire on the 2.4 antenna.
Sep 07, 2009, 03:35 PM
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What do you think of it ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/RC-A2212-2200KV-...d=p3286.c0.m14

Seem to me a very good deal
Sep 08, 2009, 11:52 AM
AD.
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It may look like a good deal at the moment but in a few months it wont seem like such a great thing. Its a cheapo chinese no brand motor and ESC which can often be dangerous.
Sep 08, 2009, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by _AD_
It may look like a good deal at the moment but in a few months it wont seem like such a great thing. Its a cheapo chinese no brand motor and ESC which can often be dangerous.
you are right......see the spec conflict of the motor

Max. Efficiency current: 14-22A

Max Current 8A for 60s
Sep 09, 2009, 10:15 AM
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Just got my Floater (& other toys) from HC yesterday & have a few questions.

Should I use the provided glue on the tail section? Where is the best place to mount the esc? The Rx? I was going to mount the Rx of the roof of the nose compartment (so I wouldn't block the air holes) and mount the esc on the 'floor', under the battery; so it would catch some air flow.

Sorry if this has been covered already. I haven't read all 62 pages of this thread.

Thanks, Ralph