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Feb 27, 2003, 06:56 PM
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Unusual type...anyone got plans,3views?

Good day all,

I haven't posted here in a long time but have been watching the discussion
over the Bristol scout, Pfalz E-1 & Nieuports.
I'm envious of certain of you who seem to be able to just pump out planes
("...cough,(Mr. Hoffman)cough..!). I'll have to wait till Navy exams are over
and a house move before I can continue on my project.

Does anybody have plans, 3-views or articles on the "one-hit-wonder"
A.D. Sparrow Scout biplane, early WWI? It is one of those oddities that
Mr. Rittinger had up among his Odd-Ball Aircraft thread a couple weeks back.

I've found one photo on the web(the same from the Oddities Thread) and
have a small 3-view in a compendium of fighter aircraft but it is 3,000 mi.
away. I also had a small colour illustration in a 25 yr old book on odd
aircraft and I was always intrigued by it.

It is a funny pusher w/long, skid horn landing gear, scalloped TE's and the
coffin shaped cockpit on top of the top wing. The photo has some not-too-
confident looking guy, sitting like he he's afraid they'll coerce him into
trying to fly it as well.

It has so much "Dick Dastardly & Muttley" appeal I'd like to try and build it.

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Feb 27, 2003, 09:06 PM
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Feb 27, 2003, 11:05 PM
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That is one but-ugly airplane.
Feb 27, 2003, 11:11 PM
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Here's a so-so 3 view.
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Feb 28, 2003, 01:42 AM
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Thanks for the response, gentlemen!

LenBFP: I like the link, especially the MicroMachine Sopwith! Now to get one of those A.D. Scout models myself.

Gerald: Yeah, butt-ugly but I've personally grown cloying-sick with all the attention lauded on mainstream beauty: supermodels, brand name designer clothes, golf-green perfect lawns, P-51's in everbody's hangar, a Boxster in every driveway(probably because I could never afford any of it !).

The really beautiful things in life usually are sublime, humble, even a bit homely. They go unappreciated because they are not loud, flashy & dripping with Krispy Kreme sugar-jelly-goo.
Mind you, I wouldn't fly in an aircraft following these parameters nor marry the first woman meeting my "stringent criteria"

Then again, my current pet is a black & white hooded rat, but it is ~85% as smart & loving as a dog, but in a 10in. pkg. Let us see if Rex or Fido can "have an accident" which can be stainlessly cleaned up w/a single sheet of toilet paper!

I digress. We need more A-10's & that 'B.A.T. 12'-thingamajig Mr. Rake was offering as plans! I'd really like to know if anyone else
has modelled this or one of the other pathologically homely planes
from history.

Thanks again.

Feb 28, 2003, 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Spaaro
I'd really like to know if anyone else has modelled this or one of the other pathologically homely planes from history.
You mean like the one below?

While a P-51 or Spitfire has beauty that none can deny, this was the model that dominated the Scale R/C Modeler magazine coverage of the Scalemaster's Qualifier at which it was entered and flown. There were no less than 5 pictures of this model including a full page color photo. The winner of the Expert scale category got one teeny B&W photo at the end of the article.

Vive le difference!


Mar 02, 2003, 07:05 PM
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that is a killer looking guppy
Mar 02, 2003, 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Spaaro

I'd really like to know if anyone else
has modelled this or one of the other pathologically homely planes
from history.

Thanks again.

How about this one? Mahil Stabiloplane
Mar 02, 2003, 07:55 PM
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Oh, here we go...

... and me with no scanner...

I have Janes Historical Aircraft (1902-16) which has some truly ugly and unique stuff in it, not the least of which is a flying boat that leaves its wings/aft fuselage/tailfeathers anchored out in the bay while the main fuse becomes a lighter for the passengers...

The Brits built a bomber between the wars with the same AD layout writ large (Heyford?); try that one for odd scale. also there is a Guppy at Pima in Tucson.

Pretty, not pretty, as long as it is scale!
Mar 03, 2003, 01:36 AM
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Me Tooo!

Spaaro Go Dog Go!
I'm also fed up with the Neon Flash Planes.
Like the only Plane is a P-51 Hmmm I really wonder how many kits and ARFs of P51 aircraft are there? ( Should Run a Thread on the density of popular aircraft !!!)
Hope you find a beauty to build. I picked the Macchi M33 . I thinks the lines are stunning on this bird.
I'll keep a look out as well Now that I know some one with Good taste is Looking
Mar 03, 2003, 07:51 PM
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I thought this thread had run its course & died, once i got the requisite diagrams. All the ugliness of the world keeps rearing its hideous head!!

I have always thought the Guppy was the quintessential "form following function" plane and actually quite attractive. Yeah, so what, I like fat chicks, or uh , fish! No...that still doesn't sound right?
Well, the construction webpage for the Guppy project I have printed & saved; really excellent work in my eyes and a testament to comments I believe Jim Ryan made many moons ago concerning big fuselages do not have to be as heavy as they might look. This was in a discussion about a B-26 Marauder kit and the apparently inherent hi wingloading.

Good to see so many of you with ugly ducklings on the brain; building homely scale planes is like owning a moped; fun to ride but not what your likely to brag to your friends about.
I have just started going about how i will build this AD Scout; I found a handful of other web sites and only the Canadian Aviation Heritage Museum site had rare photos of the plane in different stages of construction, about six.
It is a big help and refreshing that my homeland cares about preserving the memory of the malformed:P.

One thing I'm considering is straying from true scale w/the landing gear; I might splay the L.G. struts out to space the wheels
more like a WWI Farman or Voisin pusher and do away with the axel. As well as add wire loops under the lower wing interplanes like a Jenny. What say, sacrilege? Could a model after the original configuration handle on the ground?

I'm going for a 48" span, Spd 300 or 400 pwr, and not sure whether to try for ailerons like the original or just rud/elev. My homebrew cardboard construction, of course.
Mar 04, 2003, 04:06 AM
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Handley Page Heyford

Here's a picture and three-view of the aforementioned Heyford . . .

Pig Ugly ?

Yes, but a twin Speed400 model would certainly turn heads !

Mar 04, 2003, 06:24 AM
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I'm still chuggin away on the S400 Marauder Soon, gentlemen, soon....


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