257" B-36D Scratch Build 6 a turning and 4 a burning - Page 614 - RC Groups
Shop our Airplanes Products Drone Products Sales
Thread Tools
Feb 17, 2011, 11:30 AM
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
habitforming's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by sneasle
I hate to off topic this.. but it's guys like this that really don't help the rest of us when it comes time for the FAA to make new rules...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ttSwYNspw

http://rcexplorer.se/files/ba11c31bb...af236-246.html
I don't want us on a big off-topic tangent again, but I think there is one comment worth making here.

Before everyone goes up in arms over "oh mah gawd the FAA is going to shut down modeling because of this one idiot"... The platform was designed by a company - Neural Robotics Incorporated. I would suspect it was designed as a project for either government defense or private sector. Either way, this is far from a "hobbyist" adventure.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/01/n...-12-gauge-sho/

Also, it was 5 years ago.

I will not add another comment regarding this topic to the thread. If it warrants further discussion, it should be given it's own thread.
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Feb 17, 2011, 01:01 PM
Registered User
Toddi's Avatar
Hi Dag,

i hope you find this information useful.
I see you did not started to build the pods yet.

The pods each face 2 outward together with the 2 dihedral of main wing. On pictures they seem to be normal vertically down, but that is just because of the wing bending. On in flight pictures it is clearly seen as well on rare pictures where the wing is supported to be unloaded for maintenence issues. (a photo chronicle, page 39) I have attached pictures for reference. The side view is as good as i was able to retrieve data.

bad ass plane dag

cheers, Toddi
Feb 17, 2011, 04:55 PM
Rock On- Damon Atwood
dag214's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toddi
Hi Dag,

i hope you find this information useful.
I see you did not started to build the pods yet.

The pods each face 2 outward together with the 2 dihedral of main wing. On pictures they seem to be normal vertically down, but that is just because of the wing bending. On in flight pictures it is clearly seen as well on rare pictures where the wing is supported to be unloaded for maintenence issues. (a photo chronicle, page 39) I have attached pictures for reference. The side view is as good as i was able to retrieve data.

bad ass plane dag

cheers, Toddi
Thanks!
You have some of the best drawing info on the B-36. I have that info, but seeing it make sense now what it all means to how it looks in reference to the wing.

Thanks a 120%.

DAG
Feb 17, 2011, 05:24 PM
War Eagle!
sneasle's Avatar
Hmm.. so they were a total of 4 degrees of axis? I wonder why they did that.
Feb 17, 2011, 07:39 PM
Rock On- Damon Atwood
dag214's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by sneasle
Hmm.. so they were a total of 4 degrees of axis? I wonder why they did that.
They are tilted down 2 degrees as when the B36 was at altitude and flying with about a 2-4 degree up angle of attach from the thin air, this helped keep the air coming in straight to the jets. Look at the + incidence of the wing to keep the fuse as close as possible to zero when at altitude.

Thanks, DAG
Feb 17, 2011, 07:45 PM
Rock On- Damon Atwood
dag214's Avatar
Kosovo Hakifi, builds an airplane (1 min 39 sec)


Can someone tell me if this guy really thinks this is going to fly, this is aviation related and not to far off topic, but this plane has no airfoil on the wing??

Someone e-mailed this to me saying this guy is really going to fly this?????

Thanks, DAG
Feb 17, 2011, 08:04 PM
AMA 1124741
Parkk's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by dag214
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VlLewDD8xM

Can someone tell me if this guy really thinks this is going to fly, this is aviation related and not to far off topic, but this plane has no airfoil on the wing??

Someone e-mailed this to me saying this guy is really going to fly this?????

Thanks, DAG
Good luck, we are counting on you.....................
Feb 17, 2011, 08:09 PM
I fly, therefore, I crash!!!
SteveT.'s Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by dag214
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VlLewDD8xM

Can someone tell me if this guy really thinks this is going to fly, this is aviation related and not to far off topic, but this plane has no airfoil on the wing??

Someone e-mailed this to me saying this guy is really going to fly this?????

Thanks, DAG
from what I can see if he got that propeller spinning fast enough to give any thrust it would shake itself to pieces with-in a few minutes....

SteveT
Latest blog entry: My hangar...
Feb 17, 2011, 08:10 PM
ParkScaleModels
zbrubaker's Avatar
if someone can make a plane fly with a ceiling fan for a motor and wings that small, I suppose anything is possible at that point. Looks like the (non) Flying Farmer to me.
Feb 17, 2011, 08:21 PM
Registered User
bolar's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by zbrubaker
if someone can make a plane fly with a ceiling fan for a motor and wings that small, I suppose anything is possible at that point. Looks like the (non) Flying Farmer to me.


Propeller? That looks like a ceiling fan!
Feb 17, 2011, 09:28 PM
A Day @ a Time - Matt. 6:25-34
ruff1's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by dag214
They are tilted down 2 degrees as when the B36 was at altitude and flying with about a 2-4 degree up angle of attach from the thin air, this helped keep the air coming in straight to the jets...
Interesting... When I worked on B-52D models in TX I don't remember them having any tilt on the engines, but I never looked that close. I remember them flying around near the base they seemed to have a bit of a nose-down angle.
I have noticed MD80s however; they seem to have a unique angle on the engines, that probably has something to do with them being in the rear of the aircraft...
Last edited by ruff1; Feb 17, 2011 at 09:33 PM.
Feb 18, 2011, 12:41 AM
War Eagle!
sneasle's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by dag214
They are tilted down 2 degrees as when the B36 was at altitude and flying with about a 2-4 degree up angle of attach from the thin air, this helped keep the air coming in straight to the jets. Look at the + incidence of the wing to keep the fuse as close as possible to zero when at altitude.

Thanks, DAG

Oh, no, I thought he meant they (as in, the strut itself) were tilted to the side 2 degrees.
Feb 18, 2011, 03:09 AM
So I'M meant to be in control?
Colonel Blink's Avatar
[QUOTE=dag214;17438439Can someone tell me if this guy really thinks this is going to fly?????

Thanks, DAG[/QUOTE]

Not wanting to continue derailing (apologies for when I've done it before), but in response to you question:

That strikes me more like a "get me on the telly" ploy. I think this guy is more serious (maybe foolhardy!).... but you have to admire his passion!

Aircraft Maker to Make A Test Run (2 min 31 sec)

Aircraft Testing (3 min 28 sec)
Feb 18, 2011, 07:09 AM
Rock On- Damon Atwood
dag214's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by sneasle
Oh, no, I thought he meant they (as in, the strut itself) were tilted to the side 2 degrees.
They are also tilted out also (looking at the front the swung out 2 degrees). This was from what I understand more of a mechanical reason as the jets were the same as used on the B-47. When fitted to the wing the attachment points worked out that way, the stiffing strut was not added until testing showed the motor swayed while at full power on the ground roll.

Thanks!
DAG
Feb 18, 2011, 07:14 AM
Rock On- Damon Atwood
dag214's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Blink
Not wanting to continue derailing (apologies for when I've done it before), but in response to you question:

That strikes me more like a "get me on the telly" ploy. I think this guy is more serious (maybe foolhardy!).... but you have to admire his passion!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujU1D...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-_ds...eature=related
Thanks mate!
I just can't help to think how their love for aviation may be their ticket to the graveyard.

Very cool stuff.

Cheers!
DAG


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Good B-36 site (drawing with cross sections, too!) Thomas B Scale Kit/Scratch Built 26 Oct 11, 2011 10:14 PM
Discussion B-36 B-52 kgmorris Scale Kit/Scratch Built 20 Jan 02, 2009 07:27 AM
b-36 dorysch1 Scale Kit/Scratch Built 32 Feb 01, 2004 09:33 PM
Questions about my wally B-36...I'm new to foam. Boba_Fett Foamies (Kits) 8 Jun 11, 2002 04:36 PM
B 36 Trobber Parkflyers 3 Dec 30, 2001 01:33 PM