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Old Feb 17, 2011, 11:30 AM
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I hate to off topic this.. but it's guys like this that really don't help the rest of us when it comes time for the FAA to make new rules...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ttSwYNspw

http://rcexplorer.se/files/ba11c31bb...af236-246.html
I don't want us on a big off-topic tangent again, but I think there is one comment worth making here.

Before everyone goes up in arms over "oh mah gawd the FAA is going to shut down modeling because of this one idiot"... The platform was designed by a company - Neural Robotics Incorporated. I would suspect it was designed as a project for either government defense or private sector. Either way, this is far from a "hobbyist" adventure.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/01/n...-12-gauge-sho/

Also, it was 5 years ago.

I will not add another comment regarding this topic to the thread. If it warrants further discussion, it should be given it's own thread.
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Old Feb 17, 2011, 01:01 PM
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Hi Dag,

i hope you find this information useful.
I see you did not started to build the pods yet.

The pods each face 2 outward together with the 2 dihedral of main wing. On pictures they seem to be normal vertically down, but that is just because of the wing bending. On in flight pictures it is clearly seen as well on rare pictures where the wing is supported to be unloaded for maintenence issues. (a photo chronicle, page 39) I have attached pictures for reference. The side view is as good as i was able to retrieve data.

bad ass plane dag

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Old Feb 17, 2011, 04:55 PM
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Hi Dag,

i hope you find this information useful.
I see you did not started to build the pods yet.

The pods each face 2 outward together with the 2 dihedral of main wing. On pictures they seem to be normal vertically down, but that is just because of the wing bending. On in flight pictures it is clearly seen as well on rare pictures where the wing is supported to be unloaded for maintenence issues. (a photo chronicle, page 39) I have attached pictures for reference. The side view is as good as i was able to retrieve data.

bad ass plane dag

cheers, Toddi
Thanks!
You have some of the best drawing info on the B-36. I have that info, but seeing it make sense now what it all means to how it looks in reference to the wing.

Thanks a 120%.

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Old Feb 17, 2011, 05:24 PM
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Hmm.. so they were a total of 4 degrees of axis? I wonder why they did that.
Old Feb 17, 2011, 07:39 PM
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Hmm.. so they were a total of 4 degrees of axis? I wonder why they did that.
They are tilted down 2 degrees as when the B36 was at altitude and flying with about a 2-4 degree up angle of attach from the thin air, this helped keep the air coming in straight to the jets. Look at the + incidence of the wing to keep the fuse as close as possible to zero when at altitude.

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Old Feb 17, 2011, 07:45 PM
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Can someone tell me if this guy really thinks this is going to fly, this is aviation related and not to far off topic, but this plane has no airfoil on the wing??

Someone e-mailed this to me saying this guy is really going to fly this?????

Thanks, DAG
Old Feb 17, 2011, 08:04 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VlLewDD8xM

Can someone tell me if this guy really thinks this is going to fly, this is aviation related and not to far off topic, but this plane has no airfoil on the wing??

Someone e-mailed this to me saying this guy is really going to fly this?????

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Old Feb 17, 2011, 08:09 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VlLewDD8xM

Can someone tell me if this guy really thinks this is going to fly, this is aviation related and not to far off topic, but this plane has no airfoil on the wing??

Someone e-mailed this to me saying this guy is really going to fly this?????

Thanks, DAG
from what I can see if he got that propeller spinning fast enough to give any thrust it would shake itself to pieces with-in a few minutes....

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Old Feb 17, 2011, 08:10 PM
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if someone can make a plane fly with a ceiling fan for a motor and wings that small, I suppose anything is possible at that point. Looks like the (non) Flying Farmer to me.
Old Feb 17, 2011, 08:21 PM
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if someone can make a plane fly with a ceiling fan for a motor and wings that small, I suppose anything is possible at that point. Looks like the (non) Flying Farmer to me.


Propeller? That looks like a ceiling fan!
Old Feb 17, 2011, 09:28 PM
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They are tilted down 2 degrees as when the B36 was at altitude and flying with about a 2-4 degree up angle of attach from the thin air, this helped keep the air coming in straight to the jets...
Interesting... When I worked on B-52D models in TX I don't remember them having any tilt on the engines, but I never looked that close. I remember them flying around near the base they seemed to have a bit of a nose-down angle.
I have noticed MD80s however; they seem to have a unique angle on the engines, that probably has something to do with them being in the rear of the aircraft...
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Old Feb 18, 2011, 12:41 AM
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They are tilted down 2 degrees as when the B36 was at altitude and flying with about a 2-4 degree up angle of attach from the thin air, this helped keep the air coming in straight to the jets. Look at the + incidence of the wing to keep the fuse as close as possible to zero when at altitude.

Thanks, DAG

Oh, no, I thought he meant they (as in, the strut itself) were tilted to the side 2 degrees.
Old Feb 18, 2011, 03:09 AM
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[QUOTE=dag214;17438439Can someone tell me if this guy really thinks this is going to fly?????

Thanks, DAG[/QUOTE]

Not wanting to continue derailing (apologies for when I've done it before), but in response to you question:

That strikes me more like a "get me on the telly" ploy. I think this guy is more serious (maybe foolhardy!).... but you have to admire his passion!

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Old Feb 18, 2011, 07:09 AM
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Oh, no, I thought he meant they (as in, the strut itself) were tilted to the side 2 degrees.
They are also tilted out also (looking at the front the swung out 2 degrees). This was from what I understand more of a mechanical reason as the jets were the same as used on the B-47. When fitted to the wing the attachment points worked out that way, the stiffing strut was not added until testing showed the motor swayed while at full power on the ground roll.

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Old Feb 18, 2011, 07:14 AM
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Not wanting to continue derailing (apologies for when I've done it before), but in response to you question:

That strikes me more like a "get me on the telly" ploy. I think this guy is more serious (maybe foolhardy!).... but you have to admire his passion!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujU1D...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-_ds...eature=related
Thanks mate!
I just can't help to think how their love for aviation may be their ticket to the graveyard.

Very cool stuff.

Cheers!
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