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Oct 30, 2012, 07:05 PM
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Dead, JetPlaneFlyer, thanks I did not know that digitals are prone to jitter. Dead you're right, it had not affected flight characteristics, just the tail waggles when it's on the ground. I think I'll just interpret that as eagerness

My "beater" is a hk 1.4m epo sbach, servos will probably fail pretty quickly on the elevator or rudder of that one lol.
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Nov 01, 2012, 09:20 AM
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Right, I finally got around to unpacking my bipe with bite and inspecting all surfaces.

Everything seems to be in order, except two things. One, the bag holding the rods and the CF cabanes had torn so I had bits everywhere in the box. No worries I have plenty of stuff in my box'o'spares.

But two, and more seriously, there appears to be crushed balsa in my bottom wing, where the circle lightening holes have been cut out. Is this something I should be concerned about? Check out the pic:



Incidentally, what is that white round stuff? They look like bacteria colonies or something.
Nov 01, 2012, 09:30 AM
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...The HS5065 has it covered in the spec department, but I've had rotten luck with mine, and they are not cheap either...
This leads me to ask a question to everyone following:

What do you all do when you buy a servo and it is either DOA or simply not functioning properly?

a. go buy another servo
b. try to return it to the vendor (either LHS or online)
c. try to return it to the manufacturer
d. try to repair servo yourself


In the above question, I am not talking about Turnigey/ HK servos- but name brand stuff like Futaba, HiTec, Savox, etc. You know, companies with real customer service departments
Nov 01, 2012, 09:34 AM
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@ rayonnair: I don't think that little bit of damage is anything to be concerned about.
But try running a warm iron (not too hot that you shrink the film) over the translucent covering, that should get the covering nice and clear again.
Nov 01, 2012, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bsbauman
This leads me to ask a question to everyone following:

What do you all do when you buy a servo and it is either DOA or simply not functioning properly?

a. go buy another servo
b. try to return it to the vendor (either LHS or online)
c. try to return it to the manufacturer
d. try to repair servo yourself


In the above question, I am not talking about Turnigey/ HK servos- but name brand stuff like Futaba, HiTec, Savox, etc. You know, companies with real customer service departments
Go back to the LHS. The ones I've been to locally that I support have been good to me in the past and I don't doubt that they will help.

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@ rayonnair: I don't think that little bit of damage is anything to be concerned about.
But try running a warm iron (not too hot that you shrink the film) over the translucent covering, that should get the covering nice and clear again.
Thanks man, it doesn't look too bad I just thought I'd check.

I will try the iron... it looks really freaky haha
Nov 01, 2012, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rayonnair
But two, and more seriously, there appears to be crushed balsa in my bottom wing, where the circle lightening holes have been cut out. Is this something I should be concerned about?

Incidentally, what is that white round stuff? They look like bacteria colonies or something.
Hey Ray, nice to see you are starting a build!

That white stuff on your wings, does it appear to be on the inside of the covering or on the outside? Did you try going over it with some windex?

In regards to the wing, I had to reorder one wing half when I was in the process of rebuilding my Addiction-X, and had a similar experience. As I had just repaired the entire frame, and had to recover the new wing half anyway, I just made the repairs myself.

Mine was not damage to the sheeting, but rather a few ribs were crunched and misaligned. Search for Burned Retina on RCG, pics and repair is in post #25.
Nov 01, 2012, 10:02 AM
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Hey Ray, nice to see you are starting a build!

That white stuff on your wings, does it appear to be on the inside of the covering or on the outside? Did you try going over it with some windex?

In regards to the wing, I had to reorder one wing half when I was in the process of rebuilding my Addiction-X, and had a similar experience. As I had just repaired the entire frame, and had to recover the new wing half anyway, I just made the repairs myself.

Mine was not damage to the sheeting, but rather a few ribs were crunched and misaligned. Search for Burned Retina on RCG, pics and repair is in post #25.
Really more like inspecting the goods for issues . It's only my second balsa related build, so a bit nervous with it.

The funny circles are, I think, on the insides. The covering iron on warm didn't help. In fact, as an experiment I cut out one of the aileron servo holes and tried to wipe it out of the insides.... that didn't work either. So I am at a loss. Is it fungus, I wonder? I'm in a tropical place...
Nov 01, 2012, 10:06 AM
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Update! I managed to get rid of the circles. I used a higher heat setting on the covering iron. The problem is... this also shrunk the covering. I think I'm in for some experimentation with the cut outs that I need to do, and fingers crossed I get the settings right before I run out of cut out covering material to experiment on!
Nov 01, 2012, 11:07 AM
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I wouldn't iron on that wing too much before assembling the rest of the airframe...
Nov 01, 2012, 08:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bsbauman
This leads me to ask a question to everyone following:

What do you all do when you buy a servo and it is either DOA or simply not functioning properly?

a. go buy another servo
b. try to return it to the vendor (either LHS or online)
c. try to return it to the manufacturer
d. try to repair servo yourself


In the above question, I am not talking about Turnigey/ HK servos- but name brand stuff like Futaba, HiTec, Savox, etc. You know, companies with real customer service departments
For my first two failed HS5065s I returned them and was sent replacements. The remaining failed ones have just gone into the spares box. I don't want any more replacements, and have since been using corona servos with more success. Maybe I can use them for their gear trains in the future.
Nov 01, 2012, 08:14 PM
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I wouldn't iron on that wing too much before assembling the rest of the airframe...
No worries, I wasn't planning to. The amount of heat necessary to get rid of the circles is enough to shrink the covering. I might just leave it be and see whether in regular use anything changes.
Nov 04, 2012, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by subsonic
For my first two failed HS5065s I returned them and was sent replacements. The remaining failed ones have just gone into the spares box. I don't want any more replacements, and have since been using corona servos with more success. Maybe I can use them for their gear trains in the future.
I'd return them even if you don't intend to use the replacements. if people don't return them Hitec are going to get a false impression of how reliable the servos are and are less likely to do something to fix it.

You can always sell the replacements on eBay and get a few $
Nov 04, 2012, 10:35 AM
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Not sure if this is a normal behavior while hover a biplane. While in hover or AoA, mine more often will require slight right rudder to stay aligned. Is this a common thing on this plane. I don't seem to have do this on my other PA planes.

Other than that, I am having a good time with mine. Love the light wing load. I did have to add additional white strips on bottom wing to help with orientation.
Nov 06, 2012, 10:11 AM
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Not sure if this is a normal behavior while hover a biplane. While in hover or AoA, mine more often will require slight right rudder to stay aligned. Is this a common thing on this plane. I don't seem to have do this on my other PA planes.

Other than that, I am having a good time with mine. Love the light wing load. I did have to add additional white strips on bottom wing to help with orientation.
Thats a normal behaviour on any plane, but once you find the sweet spot usually every plane will stay in a hover / torque roll with minimium inputs, although usually finding that spot is only easy when doing torque rolls, in hover its a bit harder!
Nov 06, 2012, 09:34 PM
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i'll keep that in mind. the additional rudder input was something that just stand out on this model for some reason. maybe it was just me.

regardless...this one is of the most fun, easy aerobatic 3d bi planes I've flown since starting flying rc plane. looking to add a back-up to the hangar just in case


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