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Old May 22, 2011, 11:23 AM
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I have serious doubts that Administrator Babbitt will ever sign off on that SFAR.
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Old May 22, 2011, 12:56 PM
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Is the 10lbs limit still being used, if so why did that weight limit get used if the mph is 60
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Old May 22, 2011, 02:46 PM
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Is the 10lbs limit still being used, if so why did that weight limit get used if the mph is 60
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What weight and speed limit are you referring to?
Old May 22, 2011, 03:27 PM
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The FPV safety of the 1st page.
I'm trying to keep up with subject but I dont see the starting point of what or why what limits are being used.
Just trying to keep up with the subject.
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Old May 22, 2011, 04:11 PM
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The FPV safety of the 1st page.
I'm trying to keep up with subject but I dont see the starting point of what or why what limits are being used.
Just trying to keep up with the subject.
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The first post is the safety guidelines and there are no limits specified. It simply reads "Aircraft maximum weight and speed limited to AMA safety rules and FAA guidelines". AMA would be the one to ask how then arrived at any limits in their club rules. Neither however are FAA regulations. Those are coming.
Old May 24, 2011, 09:58 AM
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The Wall Street Journal daily podcast had a quick blurb about upcoming FAA rulings affecting RC aircraft. "These aren't your father's model planes" was the catch line. They didn't mention FPV but mentioned higher speeds, better batteries, etc..
Old May 24, 2011, 10:07 AM
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It's all gone mainstream
Old May 24, 2011, 10:38 AM
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You suppose any videos are getting screened in the House & Senate chambers?
Old May 24, 2011, 02:07 PM
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I'm sure they trot those out to show why we must have regulation.
Old May 24, 2011, 02:29 PM
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Whats the latest scuttle butt on this?

Anyone wanna give a current situation briefing?
Old May 24, 2011, 04:34 PM
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I'm sure they trot those out to show why we must have regulation.
I wonder which FPV videos they watch???.... .... or....
Old May 24, 2011, 05:18 PM
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Whats the latest scuttle butt on this?

Anyone wanna give a current situation briefing?
Two things are going on.

1) The FFA NPRM is still underway which will define regulations for all small unmanned aerial systems. Publication of the NPRM has been moved out to the end of the year and the comment period to 2/12. Best guess is that amateur models resposibility would be given to AMA which would require their rules to be followed to be exempt from the other sUAS regulations.

2) AMA apparently called in a marker and got an amendment added to the Senate version of H.R.658 "FAA Air Transportation Modernization and Safety Improvement Act" which would totally exclude Amateur models from FAA regulations. The House version of the act doesn't not however contain that amendment. A joint subcommittee has been formed to reconcile the diffferences between the two.

So IMO reading between the lines FAA wants amateur models covered by regulations and it would not be unexpected for them to apply presssure to do so. Wonder what they could possible use to do that??

Interestingly this has just surfaced.


http://tinyurl.com/3omedtd

http://tinyurl.com/3sjlho6
Old May 24, 2011, 05:32 PM
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Old May 24, 2011, 05:47 PM
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Hmm, a very positive article in a national publication, and a *very* negative response
from the AMA. Nice.


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Old May 24, 2011, 06:24 PM
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I especially like where he immediately took FPV completely out of the context and
examples presented in the article (flying low down the alps, the desert, and
the river around Manhattan) and went straight to intense fear mongering targeted
straight at the general public, about ingesting an I-phone [sic] at airliner altitudes, and
misrepresenting what we do as something that should be regulated as a purely commercial venture.

It just solidifies my opinion that by far the biggest threat to amateur FPV comes from within
the R/C community itself and if the misrepresentation and outright lies I now hear
regularly at my local hobby store are any indication, there are plenty of other R/C
pilots (and a few who just fancy themselves as such) who would be happy to go
out of their way to make our lives miserable.

I'm sure that totally alienating one of the fastest growing and evolving segments of model
aviation, will serve the AMA well.

ian
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