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Old Aug 28, 2008, 07:11 AM
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Yep. I just got an email yesterday saying it was being produced in late August and available early September. Cant wait to get one. Body looks really nice.

Some specs received:

overview : . Driven by two 370 super motors, equipped with digital servo and updated Esky 4ch transmitter.
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copper counterweight adopted flybar stabilizes the heli in various flight states, silk-printing process provides bright colored & high lustrous canopy.
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The high intensity carbon fiber-plastic made landing skid suits in various takeoff & flight conditions and is helpful to the beginners. Its able to fly outdoors in breeze.
Specification:

l 370 super motor * 2pcs
l 4 in 1 controller
l 7.5g digital servo * 2pcs
l upgraded 4ch transmitter
l 11.1V Li-Polymer battery

Length: 500mm
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Old Aug 28, 2008, 10:03 AM
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I'd like to see an Esky EK1H-020 vs Walkera 53#1 comparative review with all pros and cons, although I'd probably go for Esky due to better electronics/radios and knowing the ruggedness and reliability of the Lama V3. If "xtreme" upgrades appear for this one too, it will be a very interesting camera platform or just fun free flying machine.
Old Aug 29, 2008, 06:43 AM
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I'd like to see an Esky EK1H-020 vs Walkera 53#1 comparative review with all pros and cons, although I'd probably go for Esky due to better electronics/radios and knowing the ruggedness and reliability of the Lama V3. If "xtreme" upgrades appear for this one too, it will be a very interesting camera platform or just fun free flying machine.
Once I get the esky i will do a full comparison on the 2. I already have the Walkera 53#1. The Walkera will be hard to beat as far as flight characteristics go. From what I have been told by a couple of sources the blades on the esky are around 500mm too. Should be more stable once balanced and trimmed properly.
Old Aug 29, 2008, 10:42 AM
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I was going to get a 53#1 but I decided to wait after hearing about this one. I look forward to your review Teammpp. Do we have a price estimate at all ?
Old Aug 29, 2008, 11:42 PM
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Pictures




Big coax



Eurocopter




KOB

It's on the Esky website.
Old Aug 30, 2008, 01:50 AM
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EK1H-E020 Specifications
(1).Main rotor diameter: 460mm;
(2).Weight:410g;
(3).Length:510mm,width:110mm, height:260mm;
(4).Power system:370 motor*2;
(5).KIT/ARF/RTF:RTF;
(6).Transmitter:4 CH (including training switch and simulator port);
(7).Mix controller:Receiver and 3in1 Controller;
(8).Servo:digital servos;weight:7.5g;torque:1.3kg.CM;speed:0.12S/60
(9).Battery:11.1V 800mAh Li-polymer battery.

HM 53#1 Specifications

1). Main Rotor Dia. B : 450mm
2). Main Rotor Dia. A : 450mm
3). 53#8 Overall Length: 470mm
4). 53#1 Overall Length: 440mm
5). 53#8 All-up Weight: 365g (Battery included)
6). 53#1 All-up Weight: 359g (Battery included)
7). Main Motor: 2*370SH
8). Battery: 7.4V 1200mAh Li-Po
9).Servo: wk-7.6-3 / weight 8.5g / speed 0.11sec/60o(4.8V) / torque 0.9kg/cm (4.8V) / dimension 22.5*11.5*24mm


So it's slightly larger than the 53#1 and heavier
Old Aug 30, 2008, 07:33 AM
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EK1H-E020 Specifications
(1).Main rotor diameter: 460mm;
(2).Weight:410g;
(3).Length:510mm,width:110mm, height:260mm;
(4).Power system:370 motor*2;
(5).KIT/ARF/RTF:RTF;
(6).Transmitter:4 CH (including training switch and simulator port);
(7).Mix controller:Receiver and 3in1 Controller;
(8).Servo:digital servos;weight:7.5g;torque:1.3kg.CM;speed:0.12S/60
(9).Battery:11.1V 800mAh Li-polymer battery.

HM 53#1 Specifications

1). Main Rotor Dia. B : 450mm
2). Main Rotor Dia. A : 450mm
3). 53#8 Overall Length: 470mm
4). 53#1 Overall Length: 440mm
5). 53#8 All-up Weight: 365g (Battery included)
6). 53#1 All-up Weight: 359g (Battery included)
7). Main Motor: 2*370SH
8). Battery: 7.4V 1200mAh Li-Po
9).Servo: wk-7.6-3 / weight 8.5g / speed 0.11sec/60o(4.8V) / torque 0.9kg/cm (4.8V) / dimension 22.5*11.5*24mm


So it's slightly larger than the 53#1 and heavier
Not quite the 500mm I heard but at least they are bigger than the Walkera which was close enough . Not got a price for them yet unfortunately. Im seriously doubting the 800mah battery will do the job. I believe the 370 motors will draw too much current from it after a few minutes flying. Probably take the extra couple of grams weight penalty and upgrade to 1200mah packs if they fit.
Old Sep 01, 2008, 08:30 AM
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Price?


That heli is on par with a HBFP as far as size goes(19" rotor diameter). That makes it questionable for in- house use, so, it needs to be capable of outside flight, preferably in a little wind as most of us face. I'd be interested in a price. The KOB is the way to go!
Old Sep 01, 2008, 09:49 AM
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In the E-sky catalog it's listed two ways.

As the "Big Lama" and as the "Outside Lama". Point being is that they plan on it being flown outside.
Old Sep 01, 2008, 12:01 PM
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In the E-sky catalog it's listed two ways.

As the "Big Lama" and as the "Outside Lama". Point being is that they plan on it being flown outside.
Isn't the "outside flight" capability all about being FP or CP? AFAIK, FP blades will always be a dog to fly outside in the wind, regardless of their size. So OK, this big bird may get more headspeed and lifting power, but won't it have the same wind vulnerability problems with the smaller Lamas? AFAIK the Walkera 53#1 is not all that wonderful either, so I'm curious to see if this one really makes a difference, and if so, why.
Old Sep 01, 2008, 03:48 PM
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Isn't the "outside flight" capability all about being FP or CP? AFAIK, FP blades will always be a dog to fly outside in the wind, regardless of their size. So OK, this big bird may get more headspeed and lifting power, but won't it have the same wind vulnerability problems with the smaller Lamas? AFAIK the Walkera 53#1 is not all that wonderful either, so I'm curious to see if this one really makes a difference, and if so, why.
True. the walkera also suffers in wind. I actually crashed mine when a freak gust came round the side of the house. Caught it and sent it up above the height of the house (approx 35ft). I had to close the throttle nearly completely off to get it to come back down and then it fell like a brick. Full throttle but it wasnt enough and it bounced off the ground. Bottom bearing shattered and the tail exploded into bits. Gyro in the 4-in-1 unit hasnt been right since. Tail wonders around constantly. Hence the plan to purchase this Esky. Im using the walkera for a brushless dual swash conversion project.
Old Sep 01, 2008, 10:54 PM
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A thougtht for the Modders out there...

There are loads of 370 class brushless motors out there and the e-sky 4-in-1 is practically a RX + 3in1 once you take the cover off and pull the two boards apart (no soldering/desoldering required)... The thought of the doing a BL mod with the Walkera 53 wasn't a a pleasant one because the unknowns with the electronics and the control of the BL controllers (didn't stop me thinking of it though). On the surface it looks like a BL upgrade on this monster would be easier than a 340mm class Lama if not cheaper.

...and who can fault the promise of "...Happy Flight" !
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 11:46 PM
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Just some more info...
The EC130 and the KOB are just 340mm 180 motor Lamas with new bodies... sorry to disapoint..

Here is the "official" E-sky product page for the big Lama they class in in their "500 series" which also includes the honeybee FP, CPs and HBKs
http://www.twf-sz.com/english/products.asp?prodid=0291

Just to dispell one misconceptions that I might have added to above it has a RX + 3-in-1 arrangement rather than using the Lama's 4-in-1. It's a bit annoying that they don't do a 2.4 G 6channel Rx Yet.

Still this is an interesting beast - was looking at the new sporty Walkera 53#8 now I might hold off until these things turn up at my favourite online hobby dealer... It's never to early to start dropping Christmas gift hints for the Wifey!
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Old Sep 02, 2008, 12:43 AM
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I might hold off until these things turn up at my favourite online hobby dealer
Well if you find someone offering decent shipping rates to Aus let me know
Old Sep 02, 2008, 01:16 AM
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If your looking for a bigger coax maybe art-techs helis is of interest.
Here is a pic of a comparison btw lama and Eagle eye
For what it is worth, I saw the Eagle Eye flying in a hobby shop in Cape Town(South Africa) last week. It looked like a good machine, in fact so much so that I _nearly_ bought one! Unfortunately, I had to get it home to the UK and that was a problem. It flew rock solid (admittedly indoors) and looked impressive.
So, come on Esky, get yours out!

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