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Have myself exported "live" ie equipped airframes etc to India, (and back out again) when doing demos for Indian Army of small surveillance types. They wanted to be sure that batteries were in a seperate container,( they were not li-pos) otherwise no problem.You should establish the validity of the customer, ie "Not member of suspect organisation" and get them to forward to you copies of Customs inward clearance certificates, otherwise you could find yourself in deep kaki. Across the Indian border is Pakistan, across that is Afghanistan........There are R/C model aircraft clubs in India, especially in the Delhi area, there are several small firms making small UAVs, hopeful of orders from the military, and the Military already operate UAVs of different types, some homegrown and some imported ; one wonders why your customer doesnt support the local market?
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Patrick,
I understood from your podcast at DIYDRONES that the US rule-making process had sort of slowed down and may take a few years. My perception was that part of the problem was there at least to some extent were limitided knowledge about sUAVs among the rulemakers. Because the use of sUAVs probably still is in the early days, in my view they are hardly to blame for that. With my only brief experience from rulemaking-processes, (in Europe offcourse), I know that rulemakers are normally anxious about making rules for a field they do not fully understand. What they then often do is to call in all stakeholders, experts, interestgroups etc. (often called lobbyists), simply because they want to know as much as possible about the consequenses of the regulations the want to put into place. I think they all are familiar with histories of regulations that went wrong/led to un-expected results. (E.g. in Europe, we had our "banana-directive" which led to eternal glory for its creators. In the end they had to pull the whole directive). What I am trying to say by all this is actually only this: I would find it to be highly likely that the regulators at some point in time would want to get in touch with the main community of hobbyist sUAV'ers. And where are they to be found, if not here and at DIYDRONES? Therefore, In my opinion, somebody on one of these forums should take a role in leading a process on the forum, write down proposals, sort out, and try to obtain a concensus of what the hobbyist community would regard as censible rules for our activities in the future. brakar |
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You are correct in that they do lurk in these places, but only as an intel sort of activity. Quote:
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- no one wanted the technology to be spread, (terrorists etc), - commercial producers did not want competition, - the hobbyist community to small to be noticed. The situation now: - technology is open source and widly awailable, - lots of new products are being developed, - the hobbyist community is growing, - President Obama is advocating the use of sUAVs (Blimpduino) http://www.diydrones.com/profiles/bl...ence-education Therefore, if I was in charge of making new regulations for UAVs, I would probably have come to the conclusion that it was no longer a viable way to pretend the hobbyist community did not exist. The next logical step to make would then be to learn more about that bastard, and see how it could be dealt with - like it or not. Quote:
First question then will be; can they be banned? We all know the fist answer to this question was Yes, (maybe still are). The rapidly growing dilemma with this answer is there will be a conciderable number of new minor chriminals in the US, guilty in performing harmless activities recomended by the US President. Regularors might find themselvs sitting with a "blimp-act" or "toy-plane act", ref. the european "banana-directive". Hence, I think there are several good reasons to do some re-thinking of the initial "yes" answer. So I agree, back to square one. Btw, the energy represented by lots of sUAVs are actualy at the same level as a kicked football or a flying medium sized bird, so it beats me why they are regarded as such a big threat to people and planes. |
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Last edited by brakar; Nov 29, 2009 at 01:29 AM.
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Simple! How can you guaranty that you will not have a flyaway or other mishap that may endanger someone else's safety (air or ground)? Until you can prove 10-6/10-9 or some equivalent level of safety you are considered a hazard. Some very simple technological solutions are available to them, but I won't post what they are.
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Just read your post addressed to me. Many of the regulators and people on the safety risk management panel (going over the ARC recommendations) were in attendance for Chris’s presentation at AUVSI 2008. The feedback I heard was, that basically “that guy is a nut” and no way would anyone sign on to an uncertified auto pilot. There are no provisions for the autonomous anything in the type 1 bin. The Type 2 will require some level of certification (no one knows what that will look like.) There are no provisions for it in the hobby regs here or in Europe. I have heard that Norway is maverick on some of this stuff, but in the end ascribe to the ICAO.
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No, (only in receiving end).
However, I made some phonecalls. Short story of what I found out is this: 1. Recreational use of UAVs will be allowed in Norway, (400' + VLOS), as for regular RC's 2. Commercially use will also be allowed, but application will be neccessary. (Safety must be documented and there must be an incurance). This regime was ment to be possible to live with also for smaller businesses. 3. FPV-flying will be regarded as UAVs. There have been some incidents, and my impression was that this form of flying basically was ragarded as un-wanted. |
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Well then, we may want to cozy up to this notion as t is the only example I've seen. Does Norway have a model flying association?
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Norwegian air sports federation: www.nlf.no (web-pages only in norwegian)
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Do they have best practices or something like an AC 91-57 with recommendations and limits on flying?
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This one: http://www.modellfly.info/Sikkerhet/Sikkerhet.asp (more norwegian...)
And this one: http://www.luftfartstilsynet.no/rege...ticle18535.ece |
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Last edited by brakar; Dec 09, 2009 at 03:25 AM.
Reason: Added link
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Could you translate altitude and distance limits please?
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The reccommendations are 400' + LOS
Google translate; http://www.translate.google.com/#no|en| can be used for crude translation of text and web-pages. |
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