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Mar 02, 2008, 01:13 PM
Begin with end in mind...
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My AP "Solution"

After working with the construction methods of the Beast I have decided to experiment a bit more. I had numerous requests for a "side mount" on the Beast but the design was pretty much fixed on front mount. That said, I have come up with a possible answer. Since there are two "Beast" threads already and this looks way different. I will call this new ship the "Solution" This bird will be a bit heavier than the Beast but not that much. I see a 2.5-3 oz overall gain. I have been shooting pics through the build, I will get to them later. Here is where I am right now....

Other changes....

1. Camera mounting galore!
2. All components ESC, RX, ect... are inside
3. Pusher configuration
4. 2" wide beaded foam for fuse
5. Close to 1000 sq in on the wing
6. Ugly battery mount is gone....
7. Reduce tip dihedral to 10 deg included

Bang or bust here we go

Edit: Maiden went very well, here is the video


The plans are free, if you have success with the build and feel they are worth it. a $5.00 Donation will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


In flight pics:


Wing locator info/install



Last edited by power; Apr 25, 2009 at 03:48 PM.
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Mar 02, 2008, 01:27 PM
JimKallinen's Avatar
Now you really have my attention, A pusher sure does make more sense.
Are you going to change your wing profile with the pusher design ? Like
say add some chord and length ?

Have a feeling you will find far less vibration when filming this way.

Looking forward to seeing a first flight video.

Mar 02, 2008, 01:29 PM
Happy landings
Damn! Now I'll have to do another build!
Mar 02, 2008, 01:39 PM
Old Timer
California Condor's Avatar
You got my attention also.
Mar 02, 2008, 02:55 PM
Where'd The Wise Men Go?!?
AC5FF's Avatar
Can only say I wish I had your imagination!!!!

I'm curious: Jim mentions adding some cord/length to the wing? Also says about finding less vibration like this.. Is that due to the pusher configuration or is that due to a longer/deeper wing?? Just trying to get a handle on the physics.

Ya know; this keeps going we're going to see a Bi-Beast soon!!!
Mar 02, 2008, 03:05 PM
Professor of Wood
kd7ost's Avatar
Nice clean work Mike. You're a good builder.

Mar 02, 2008, 03:16 PM
Pull out early!
DiveBombDave's Avatar
Great job on all the iterations of this design, Mike. Simple, effective, light.

Mar 02, 2008, 03:20 PM
Vintauri's Avatar
Originally Posted by kd7ost
Nice clean work Mike. You're a good builder.


You can say that. His cuts are so precise it's amazing how clean he can make these foam planes. I like having a buffer of someone elses planes between his and mine Gives mine a chance to look decent.

So what did your wife say about sticking the D70 up there?

Mar 02, 2008, 04:50 PM
Begin with end in mind...
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Thanks guys,


I really don't see a big advantage as far as vibration goes for being a "Pusher" I do however have a bit more volume in the body to help the dampening. I have yet to have any vibration troubles (knock on wood) with the Beast. The wing cord will remain the same. The foil will be a smidge thicker. I am gaining the squares by wing span. The center section will be 40" and the tips will be what ever it takes to get what I need


Hee hee, she was sleeping on the couch. If she saw me putting the D70 in position on the plane, I would have got the "look" maybe more she knows what happens when I start eyeing things up on my planes

Mar 02, 2008, 05:14 PM
Suspended Account
Great ideas Mike. I'm glad you have backup cameras so if you do chose to fly with the DSLR and destroy it, I can see it.
Mar 02, 2008, 08:02 PM
Pull out early!
DiveBombDave's Avatar
I like to scribble crude airframe drawings on a napkin and then set *her* D200 on a kitchen scale and then start on the calculator....

It works still, even after dozens of times.

Mar 02, 2008, 08:10 PM
Not THAT Ira
Real Ira's Avatar
Hey Power,

Very cool design.
Looks like a nice slow camera platform and it's hard to beat that foam sandwich for strength to weight.

Mar 03, 2008, 04:36 AM
Die noctique
Love idea of multi camera mounts
Mar 03, 2008, 06:31 AM
Electronic juggler
This makes me really glad I've been in a hurry with other projects, otherwise I would have started making a Beast already. This looks even nicer... Actually the face looks almost jolly, the curve under the wing mount reminds me of japanese cartoon characters' eyes.

Are you going to publish plans for this as well or offer a short kit or some such?

Mar 03, 2008, 07:58 AM
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quailbird's Avatar
Oooooooooooooooo! I like it! You are a great builder. Can't wait to see it fly!

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