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Dec 11, 2007, 04:13 PM
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TD Supra vs. E-Supra rudder comparison


I have an extra TD Supra rudder and would like to use it in an upcoming E-supra build. Do you think I can get away with it? Are there any differences in the structure or size due to using the rudder to hold the servos?

Since these Supra's are the "production" model, not homebuilt, I would imagine they are somewhat interchangable if I was willing to make some mods.

I am wondering what those mods might be.
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Dec 12, 2007, 06:05 AM
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Will

I have the winch fuselage and rudder as well as the electric version. Just checked the two rudders they are identical except that there is some extra carbon cloth for the servo mounts on both sides of the skin. The electric rudder control horn has to be mounted higher on the rudder than it would on the winch version, so that the elevtor linkage can be in a straight line (elevator servo underneath).

In short provided you can put a bit of carbon cloth inside where you mount the servos it will be simple enough. You also probably have to remove the ballast tube holders from inside the pod.

I haven't built the winch version yet as the electric version fulfills my needs.
Dec 12, 2007, 08:06 AM
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Thanks David, I was hoping you'd chime in.
I am thinking about ordering the parts to make a separate electric Supra fuselage for my TD Supra.

I have an extra Supra rudder and elevator, so was wondering if I need the "official" e-supra rudder. Looks like I can use what I've got with a few mods, so at least I don't have to order it along with the new fuselage parts.

Shopping list:
I'm going to order the 2.4 e-supra pod, boom, and V-mount sometime this week. I've got a hacker B-50 carbon LMR that needs a gearbox and prop. I also have a CC-80 ESC, but am likely to need a CC-125 (any ideas here?). Add a 4S lipo and Wheeeeee!!

I purchased a power pod for the TD Supra, which is nice, but-- Cojones no tiene!
Last edited by will_newton; Dec 12, 2007 at 10:25 AM.
Dec 12, 2007, 09:46 AM
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As David points out the rudder is from a similar mold and just needs a carbon pad for the rudder and elevator servos. The production electric Supras have a hatch in the wing for the receiver to give additional room in the fuse for batteries and controller. A 2.4 friendly pod would allow you to put the RX in the fuselage.

Barry
Dec 12, 2007, 11:14 AM
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Ok, I found out that a hacker B50 that didn't come with a gearbox can't have one added to it. Well, it can but the parts and labor equal a new motor's cost.

I placed an order with Blaster AKA Barry from Kennedy Composites for
a pod, boom, v-mount, Neu 1509/1.5D w/6.7:1 GB, CC-125 ESC, HS-168 thin wing servos, and some loooong servo extensions.

Now I need a prop/spinner combo and 4S lipo.

$anta Clau$ i$ going broke!

update-I think once things start arriving, I'm going to start a build thread for the conversion.
Last edited by will_newton; Dec 13, 2007 at 01:53 PM.
Dec 26, 2016, 11:28 PM
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Removing the rudder from the fin on a supra


Have any of you had to recover the rudder and if so did you remove it. It looks like after taking the screw out of the base you need to cut the carbon ring in the center to free the rudder from the fin. Any experience?
Dec 27, 2016, 07:37 PM
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I've done it on a Supra and never bothered to replace the center binder. Once the Maxa came out which has a larger fin and rudder with the same arrangement at the top and bottom minus the center band I never thought about it again.
Dec 28, 2016, 07:30 AM
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Thanks for the help. What did you cut the center carbon ring with? Its going to be easy to damage post below.
Dec 28, 2016, 11:21 AM
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If you are talking about a competition rudder this is that the center looks like. It is actually just a wedge of balsa covered with a carbon strip. A razor down the edge on each side should pop it free.

Tom
Dec 28, 2016, 12:45 PM
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Wow, thanks. Not what i pictured.
Dec 28, 2016, 01:45 PM
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I know, not at all what I thought was there either. I took the picture to show another Supra owner buddy as well.

Tom


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