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Old Dec 17, 2002, 11:07 AM
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Happy Holidays !!!


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Old Dec 17, 2002, 11:31 AM
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Regarding your statement #2, are you implying that the only items sold here must be below "fair market value"?

Typically, all sales are "buyer beware", that is, the buyer has the responsibility to know (and pay) fair market value of an item, not the seller. An item is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Ask those who paid $$$ for worthless internet stock just 2 years ago.

Regarding E-bay, the rip-off opportunity there is the worst - I have seen others pay $25 + shipping for a $15 GWS EDF50.

There was no guarantee when you logged into the Zone that you could get your RC supplies cheaper here, but one usually can. I (and others) have the opportunity - and I dare say the right - to ask whatever I (or we) want for an item. But if I want to sell it, I had better be reasonable, or be open to offers.

That said, I have sold and bought a good bit, and always ask substantially below the Tower Hobbies price, because I intend on selling the item!


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Old Dec 17, 2002, 11:33 AM
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I have noticed this also, but they ending up selling the items. Sometimes, there are multiple people who want the same item for retail price. The bottom line is there is no one forcing anyone to buy it. So let the buyer beware.
Old Dec 17, 2002, 11:56 AM
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Merry Christmass and Happy Holidays to ALL

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Old Dec 17, 2002, 12:04 PM
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The value of a thing is what the thing will bring.

I agree that if someone places an item for sale at a greatly inflated price, it should be pointed out in a calm, curteous manner.

On the other hand, the buyer has to do some research into what they are contemplating buying.

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Old Dec 17, 2002, 12:11 PM
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For what it's worth...

A reminder in supply and demand...x people will by y product at z price.

So...
If the price is too high, no one (or numerically few) will want to buy it.
If the price is too low, more people will want to buy it.
If the price is just right, Goldilocks will buy it, and the 3 bears won't have anything to fly at the field.

When all is said and done, you still have to be able to sleep at night.


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Old Dec 17, 2002, 12:20 PM
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...A quick sale for the most bucks...Nick
Isn't that what every seller wants?

Or would you rather have a quick sell for the least bucks?

Charge what the market will bear. If you ask too much, you won't sell it. If someone pays your asking price, you did not ask too much.

Capitalism rocks.

BTW - How much can I get a GWS IPS-A motor for? A Google search is not comprehensive enough, but helps (somewhat). From Hobbytown, it is $26.99 (I was there last night), "M" is $19.99, "MM" is $18.00, "B" is $17.95, "E" is $16.99, but I have paid $14.40 at hobby shows. (names withheld - but easy to find on Google)

What would you ask on the Zone? What is "Fair Market Value"?
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Old Dec 17, 2002, 12:21 PM
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double post - oops!


That is a word you never want to hear in the operating room - "oops"
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Old Dec 17, 2002, 01:12 PM
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FAA - where did you get your...


degree in marketing? The For Sale groups are simply forums to bring people together who have a common goal.... I'm looking for it and you've got it. There is no implied guarantee here that you will get the best deal possible, or that you won't pay more than the item sells for at your local hobby store.

" A fool and his money are quickly parted". Sayings like that have been around for many years for a reason - it's human nature. If you spend any time at all watching the boards you'll quickly get an idea of what is the going rate for items that are offerd for sale here. Nobody forces anyone to respond to the adds that may price items higher. If a newbie spends more than he could have much because he didn't do a little investigation prior to investing, that's his problem.

It doesn't mean that someone isn't being friendly when they only discount a two year old kit 20%, it just means that they don't want to take a bath on it without seeing if someone else is willing to pay his price first. Remember that the same two year old kit sitting on the hobby shop shelf would likely still be marked at full price.

Besides, there are other considerations. There are instances where the item being sold is no longer in production(Hobby Hawk gliders, red label 500AR cells) yet they occasionally come up for sale here. Should somenone sell those "old" red cells for $2.50 a piece when racers would gladly pay 2 to 3 times their original cost? What if you live in Iceland and have no access to a local hobby store? A "deal " to that person is likely to be a little different than a deal to you.

"We" don't need to do anything with the sales forums. The market will take care of itself. If an item is priced too high by all the shoppers' standards, it won't sell. But a seller only needs one person to justify his price , not everyone.
Old Dec 17, 2002, 03:48 PM
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I don't know what is worse. The fact that you spent that much time typing this post, or me bothering to read it.

A seller has a right to ask whatever they want for what they are selling. I've bought many items off ezone, and have always haggled with the seller before making my purchase. I've gotten what I though were great deals, and deals that I thought were just 'fair'.

The fact is, I pay what I think it's worth.

When it comes right down to it, if you don't like the price walk away.

BTW, if you think that people here are asking to much, what do you have that you'd like to give away? I'm always in the market for almost free RC stuff.
Old Dec 17, 2002, 03:58 PM
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And he'll pay you quickly to boot.
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Old Dec 17, 2002, 04:16 PM
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If anyone is wondering why I deleted my posts, itis because I feel that my point was lost to the audience.

So as to not burden the bandwidths, or take up hard disk space I have deleted them and replaced them with a Holiday Cheer.

Like any experiment, the results were interesting and disapointing at the same time.
Old Dec 17, 2002, 05:29 PM
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FAA-

Perhaps your point would have been better received if it was a bit more direct instead of getting lost in 15 paragraphs.

What were you disappointed about? Was it the fact that everyone didn't agree with you?

Just some thoughts, please don't take offense.

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Old Dec 17, 2002, 05:38 PM
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No offense taken John

I am just disapointed that most people took at as an attack on their own transactions. It was intended to be a more "global" approach to keeping this forum at a little bit of a higher standard than just watching become another ebay. Thats all.

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Old Dec 17, 2002, 06:09 PM
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FAA-

I read your original post before there were any replies and thought "oh boy, here we go". Turned out exactly as I thought it would, not as I hoped either.

I read somewhat between the lines and understood your intents perfectly.

J

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