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I would stay far away from this ESC. It can't be programmed. Plain and simple. If you're lucky you can turn the brake on and off. Trust me.
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I found this, it seems to tell what to do to program them, but you have to follow it slowly to put it all together, unless you are accustomed to understanding .
http://www.elerc.com/english/index.p...0&productname= From what I have learned so far, All ESC's that you can program from the radio, all have a basic pattern of operation. Learn the patern by doing. Trial and Error. Sooner or later you can figure it out. Take one BEEP at a time, and listen to what the motor says. Program from full THR, drop stick to choose one of 3 to 5 beep paterns, wait for confirm signal, lift THR back to full to continue Programming, or leave stick at bottom to test settings. Some say to raise THR to half way to choose between the Sub Settings. SO MANY MY HEAD IS SPINNING. |
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Last edited by vip57@windstre; Mar 30, 2008 at 10:37 AM.
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Hey vip57, just one question... Have you tried programming *this* ESC?
I have about a dozen ESC's and generally I find it pretty easy to work with any of them -except this one. After spending HOURS with the instructions and a servo tester and a motor and a complete radio setup I can't manage to get anything more than the brake changed reliably. It has never 'behaved' properly. |
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Anyone known if this ESC works with 6 poles magnet outrunner, like the 450TH? Thanks
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I have found that if I leave them alone and don't try to program them, they work fine. It says they come already programmed with the break Off, and set for 3 LiPo's, but the one I have tried to program cuts out long before it should, causing it to crash. I replaced it with one that has never been programmed, and all is well. They work great for a Heli, but I think this project needs something a little more dependable, and easier to set up. As for 6 pole outrunners, They do work, but may not always start properly. I'm sorry I bought all of these I bought. I should have gotten CC36 |
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Finally, The Programming info for the 30A. Thanks kb6mcc
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Last edited by vip57@windstre; May 04, 2008 at 03:45 PM.
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connection of the mystery esc with motor
i recently got a 30A esc for brushless motor and a motor too!
the esc has three cables of the same colour that are supposed to connect to the motor!the motor has three cables(black red yellow). which cable from the esc goes to wich cable on the motor? thanks for any help! |
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Switch any two of the three motor wires to reverse rotation. This applies to all sensorless brushless motors.
*NEVER* *EVER* switch the battery wires to reverse rotation, this will fry your controller. This goes for ALL controllers and everything electronic (servos!) in general. The three motor cables are equivalent but not the same of course. Here's why: LRK Site -> Why does the Torquemax rotate so slowly and so forcefully Prettig weekend Ron 3-phase voltages, each phase A,B and C is one of the three motor-/ESC-wires. Each wire/phase voltage shifted 120 degrees. @Full load @Partial load Voltage chopping (chopfrequency = PWM frequency) ""One of these days, I'm going to cut you into little pieces" |
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Last edited by Ron van Sommeren; May 10, 2008 at 08:51 PM.
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Three beeps is Break On/Off or Hard/Soft/Off When it arms, It will beep 3 times for Ni-MH, or one long beep for LiPo. You just have to see if it stops fast or not for the break. |
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The 60A (also others like 80A, 100A) ESC i got has 6 different settings, it uses the center position to activate the setting and move then stick to high position again to set. I found this pdf and it matched programming sequences. If you ESC has sound BEEP follow with B, BEEP BB, BEEP BBB, BEEP BBBB, BEEP BBBBB, BEEP BBBBB. Then programming guild should works for you.
hope this helps http://www.suppomodel.com/ESC/Normal..._and_above.pdf |
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Mystery Pentium-30amp
Ok, I got a mystery pentium 30amp esc. this is diferent from my old one. It has yellow heatshrink.
This programs diferent....no music at start-up and no music in programing I think I got 3 different settings 1 beep (twice) 2 beeps (twice) 3 beeps (twice) then the whole thing starts over on normal start-up all it does is beep, 1-3 times depending on were it was set. I flew it on a 3s and it seemed to work just fine I just don't know what the factory settings are I would choose a setting then throw the throttle back on to try to get more choices, but no luck, just back to the same beep pattern as before. Here is a picture, I thought I was going to get one like I had, but they sent me a different one. Mine is the same in the pic(without the extra dealy-do on the rx plug) |
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This message is written by MBAgeeJr in thread "Tower Pro (& Under Other Names) 30 Amp ESC Instructions" and I guess that these instructions could help.
After receiving my first order from Aero-nuts.com for a couple of 2409-12T brushless motors and a couple of BLC-30A brushless speed controllers, I tried in vain to program the ESCs. No instructions were included! After email tag with Pan Lau at Aero-nuts.com, I had gotten a programming guide. This only made matters worse with the ESC. The programming guide didn’t seem to match up with what the ESC was doing. More emails and Pan Lau offered to exchange both of the ESCs for the newer Sword ESCs (SBLC25A). I didn’t want to pay to ship them back and also wait for the round trip. So, after much research, digging, and playing with the ESCs, I think I have figured things out. The programming guide that was referred to was exactly the same as a TowerPro G2 (generation 2) 30 amp ESC programming guide which allows 2-4 LIPOs. It has become obvious that these “Aero-nuts BLC-30A” ESC were actually made by TowePro and are NOT the G2 (generation 2) version. In fact, these ESCs say right on them 2-3 LIPOs, which further confirms that the programming guide is for a different version of ESC. These Aero-nuts BLC-30A ESCs are really TowerPro W30A (gen1?) Type A ESCs (without a jumper) and they are VERY basic and automatic. These ESCs do NOT play a melody (rising tone sequence) when starting. The only programming options for these ESC are: 1) LIPO automatic protection (2S or 3S, e.g. 6V or 9V) - or - NiMH/NiCD auto protection (0.8v per cell) 2) Brake toggle ON/OFF (ON by default) The following is taken from the manual for the TowerPro W30A (I have edited it for clarity): Brushless Motor speed controller Manual W12A/ W25A/W30A Operation Limit: 12A: max current 15A, continuous current 12A for 10 minutes 25A: max current 30A, continuous current 25A for 10 minutes 30A: max current 35A, continuous current 30A for 10 minutes Voltage Range: 6V-12V Number of Batteries: 4-12NiMH, 2-3LiPo BEC Output: 5V1.5A.2LiPo\4-5mini servo, 3Lipo\3-4mini servo Protective Functions: • Automatically select 2-3LiPo,protective voltages are 6V/9V respectively; • Automatically select NiMH, the protective voltage for each battery is 0.8V. • Safe start –will not start if the throttle stick is not in the right position; • Temperature protection, shutdown if the surface temperature reaches 110℃ • Loss of control protection: Shutdown after 1 second if signal lost. Performance: • Motor limit: o 2-pole max RPM: 300000 (300K) o 12-pole max RPM 50000 (50K) o 14-pole max RPM 42000 (42K) • For 8KHz pWM control , • Position of the full, throttle will be adjust automatically • BEC and MCU use separate power supply for table operation. Legend: “BEEEEP” = long and loud beep “beeeep” = long and softer beep “B” = a short beep Following this normal start procedure: 1) Turn on TX 2) Set to no (lowest) throttle 3) Plug-in power to receiver/ESCs You will hear this: BEEEEP (if Auto LiPo protection is on) - OR - BBB (if auto NiMH/NiCD protection is on) (5 second pause) B (1 second pause) B (1 second pause) B (1 second pause) B (1 second pause) B Motor is armed. Actually Motor is armed after the initial long beep, but its safest to wait unti the beep sequence is complete. For the programming procedure: NOTE: for FUTABA series transmitters, the throttle channel should be set to REV (reversed). 1) Turn on TX 2) Set to Full (highest) throttle 3) Plug-in power to receiver/ESCs You will hear this: B (1 second pause) (LIPO automatic protection menu item) B (1 second pause) BB (1 second pause) (NiMH/NiCD automatic protection menu item) BB (1 second pause) BBB (1 second pause) (Brake selection menu item) BBB And then the sequence repeats over and over. 4) To select a menu/submenu option switch the throttle stick, to the lowest position at the first time interval. (For example, to select LIPO automatic protection: switch the throttle stick to the lowest position when hearing the first B sound) (the zone between the first B and the second B above, about a 2 second window) 5) You should hear “beeeep” to indicate that the setting was saved. 6) If there are other settings you want to program then quickly (within 2 seconds of the save sound, beeeep) switch the throttle to the highest position to return to the main menu beep sequence. 7) If you have finished with all your changes, then wait 2 seconds and the motor will send a confirmation sound “beeeep” (long, softer beep), saving the setting. After this, the ESC will confirm that the throttle is in the lowest setting (move it there if it is not) and then do the normal startup sequence, after which, the motor is armed and you are ready to go. NOTES: - LIPO automatic protection has only 2 voltage protection points, 6V when it auto detects a 2S and 9V when it auto detects a 3S (basically 3V per cell). There is no need to use a full capacity battery. - NiMH automatic protection is set at 0.8V per cell, calculated according to the real number of batteries. In order to ensure accurate judgment of the battery voltage, please charge the battery to full capacity. If the battery is not at full capacity. The speed controller will estimate the protection voltage according to 53% of the full capacity. - The brake is initially ON by default. The brake setting toggles. If already the brake is already on, the selection of this menu item with turn it off (between the BBB and BBB in the program sequence). If the brake is already off, the selection of this menu item with turn it on. - Factory parameter reset function: because this series of electronic governor has an overheating and false operation protective function, if you find that the speed controller is accelerating or changing its direction, or the throttle is different from the original condition, you can reset the factory parameters to obtain the highest performance. (not sure what this means or how to do it) IMPORTANT: When starting in normal use mode, if the first thing you hear is a long BEEEEP this indicates that the ESC is in LIPO automatic protection mode, but if you hear BBB (three short beeps together) this indicates that the ESC is in NiMH/NiCD automatic protection mode. |
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Thanks MSA1 for finding that. That sounds like my esc. Glad to have that info. Making sure I had the right lipo cut-off was my biggest concern. I land as soon as I can when I notice a power loss anyway.
Thanks again everybody and hope this helps more people than just me. |
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Anyone tried one of the newer Mystery ESC's that now appear to have a 4 amp SBEC inbuilt? Seems a damn good price!
At $34 for the 60A, and only $40 for the 85A I thought it might be worth giving it a go. Especially with the inbuilt S BEC |
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Last edited by SeaComms; Jun 30, 2008 at 05:51 AM.
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Hmm.....
I bought one of these, fires up OK, runs OK, programming is different again to all the above (but I cant figure it out yet..) While playing with it and binding the receiver (Spektrum AR6200 on a DX6i) I switched off the TX and the motor spun up to full speed until I switched it back on or disconnected the battery. Any clues? |
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