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Feb 26, 2007, 01:48 PM
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Jesus' bones found in family tomb?


Since the subject of Hollywood 'documentaries' (or mock-umentaries, if you like) is popular right now, get a load of what's coming to Discovery Channel in a few days.

Jesus' bones found in family tomb in Jerusalem?

Whaddaya think? Oscar material?

Rick
Feb 26, 2007, 01:55 PM
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I wish the bones could talk and tell everyone how much they missed the point and ask them to read "The Gospel according to Jesus"
Feb 26, 2007, 02:09 PM
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I've seen other shows about this find, on Discovery channel I think.

Rather than a mockumentary, I would point out that in general -this and investigations of the like - are by and for believers. They seek to use science/archeology to support their faith.

In the larger secular archeological community, I believe the position at this point is that there is no archeological proof of the existance of the biblical Jesus at all.
Feb 26, 2007, 02:18 PM
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"the idea fails to hold up by archaeological standards but makes for profitable television."
again just a quote from the link.
Feb 26, 2007, 03:00 PM
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As with Mel Gibson's work on Jesus (and others going back to the silent days) religion sells --- believers want to have their ideas confirmed, skeptics need something to scoff at. Ironic that religion seems to sell better than sex -- of course, join the two, get DAVINCI CODE and make buckets!

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Feb 26, 2007, 03:09 PM
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Feb 26, 2007, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by radix2

In the larger secular archeological community, I believe the position at this point is that there is no archeological proof of the existance of the biblical Jesus at all.

nope, the belief is that he did exist but just without all the hoopla that was created after his death. the question of this grave really being his is a whole nuther issue...pick any spot in this country, dig down a meter or so and you've got yourself some form of archaeological discovery and i'm betting there were plenty of others with the same name



dave
Feb 26, 2007, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by radix2
I've seen other shows about this find, on Discovery channel I think.

Rather than a mockumentary, I would point out that in general -this and investigations of the like - are by and for believers. They seek to use science/archeology to support their faith.

In the larger secular archeological community, I believe the position at this point is that there is no archeological proof of the existance of the biblical Jesus at all.
In this case I don't believe it to be accurate. According to the Bible, Jesus was not buried in His families tomb, He was buried in Joseph of Aremithea's tomb. Also, since Christians believe that Jesus rose from the dead, there would be no body there. This was proved by the women that went to the tomb early in the morning, and didn't find a body there, just the grave clothes. I know many of you don't believe this, that is entirely up to you. But without the resurrection of Christ, there is no need of Christianity.
Feb 26, 2007, 05:18 PM
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The existence of remains kinda would poke a hole in the mystical tenets of his existence.....but the lessons he taught are still important.

Makes me wonder if the Templars will finally reveal their secret....
Feb 26, 2007, 05:18 PM
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Feb 26, 2007, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ZAGNUT
nope, the belief is that he did exist but just without all the hoopla that was created after his death. the question of this grave really being his is a whole nuther issue...pick any spot in this country, dig down a meter or so and you've got yourself some form of archaeological discovery and i'm betting there were plenty of others with the same name



dave
I said proof, you said belief. Secular archeology should be silent on belief.

let me be specific -

biblical Jesus = specific flesh and blood man chronicled
in the bible

archeological proof = artifact or contemporaneous writing linked directly to said man.


As you say, it is not terribly surprising if such proofs have not been found of a particular common man after 20 centuries. It would for some (hence these efforts) be a comfort should it be found. For most others, faith is sufficient.

When these efforts are made, they reflect the beliefs of the searchers - so for some, any tomb not Joseph of Aremithea's would be a negetive finding, for others less orthodox on this point, the question can be considered.
Feb 26, 2007, 10:23 PM
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Feb 27, 2007, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Wood
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Where's Geraldo?

mw
Right here.
Feb 27, 2007, 04:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Wood
Two words...

Where's Geraldo?

mw
For that matter, where's Gerald?
Feb 27, 2007, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ZAGNUT
.pick any spot in this country, dig down a meter or so and you've got yourself some form of archaeological discovery and i'm betting there were plenty of others with the same name



dave

The statistician that Cameron hired said that given the historical context and the popularity of the names, along with the relationships described on the ossuaries, the odds are 1 in 640 that this would be "the" Jesus of the Bible.

Of course that assumes he existed.


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