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Feb 01, 2007, 12:14 PM
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The 2007 Detroit Auto Show: What were your most and least-favorite cars?


I happened to like the Jaguar C-FX and Ford Interceptor a lot. The Chrysler Nassau would've been great IMO if not for its hatch/wagon body style. The Lincoln MKR stands out, too. I really hope Lincoln can turn its fortunes around and come up with cars that rival Caddy's all-around (I love the new CTS, it's much classier-looking than the current one IMHO)

P.S. I wouldn't mind a 600 hp Viper, or the rumored "Blue Devil" Corvette
Feb 01, 2007, 01:03 PM
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I thought it was a rather uninteresting show this year. My favorite car was the Chevy Volt. It looked cool and is aimed at the future without getting to George Jetson-esque.
Feb 01, 2007, 01:06 PM
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Blue Devil Corvette: it's no rumor.

600 (some sources say almost 700) ponies' worth of supercharged Z06 testosterone wrapped in liberal amounts of carbon fiber...yeah, baby.

Rick
Feb 02, 2007, 11:27 PM
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Least favorite.....ANYTHING by Ford. I thought at first they were brilliant copying the styling of the older cars when the GT40 and new Mustang came out, but after seeing all the cars they have out now, and what they propose in the future, I'd have to say they've just run out of good ideas. Their cars are BORING at best...as in "rental car boring", or just plain UGLY as in their concept cars. The concept Jag you mentioned is ugly too, and the older "new" one is just a ripoff of their Aston Martin design. It's pretty sad when the Korean car companies have better styling than American ones. Forget Ford's cars, I'd rather have the Mazda they share platforms with.
Feb 06, 2007, 12:45 AM
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Another least favorite car.......the Lincoln Mk. Wood
Feb 06, 2007, 09:23 AM
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The Lincoln pickups (all of them) are as silly as can be, especially the discontinued Blackwood (hmm, let's make a bed with a permanent hard cover, then finish it so it can't be used for anything useful, then, only offer the truck with 2WD). Brilliant marketing. I'm somewhat disappointed with the new Focus styling, and even more so with their decision to drop the hatchback models (the best-looking Focus variants IMHO). Now, the remaining sedan and coupe lack any hint of sporting proportions. I would've hated to be the new (U.S.) Focus designer.
Feb 06, 2007, 10:13 AM
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The European Focus ST is a great looking little car. I can't for the life of me understand why they don't sell it over here.
Feb 06, 2007, 10:13 AM
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All these 600hp cars are great......But, will you be able to afford it when gas costs 5 bucks a gallon?
Feb 06, 2007, 10:18 AM
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All these 600hp cars are great......But, will you be able to afford it when gas costs 5 bucks a gallon?
To tell you the truth, I couldn't afford any of them even if gas cost $1/gallon. Car payments are evil.
Feb 06, 2007, 10:25 AM
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Blue Devil Corvette: it's no rumor.

600 (some sources say almost 700) ponies' worth of supercharged Z06 testosterone wrapped in liberal amounts of carbon fiber...yeah, baby.

Rick
I agree on this one. I like it when they show cars that are beyond the concept phase. Show me a car that I will be able to buy within the next few years. I would love to take this Corvette out for a swift beating.

I see the "new vintage" cars produced by Ford and Chevy as acts of desperation. They aren't coming up with new, or innovative ideas. If they can't stay relevant in the car market, well, we already know what happens.

I like where Daimler Chrysler is headed with some of their designs. It looks like they are trying to bring some style back to American cars. It's going to be an uphill battle though.
Feb 06, 2007, 10:27 AM
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I don't like the direction the car industry is going.
I want a very small 4-passenger hatchback with just adequate power, big windows, low beltline, with NO bells or whistles, no airbags and preferrably it would be a plug-in hybrid or even a BEC (all-electric). It'll probably never exist.
It's tough to be different.
Feb 06, 2007, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jay flay tway
I don't like the direction the car industry is going.
I want a very small 4-passenger hatchback with just adequate power, big windows, low beltline, with NO bells or whistles, no airbags and preferrably it would be a plug-in hybrid or even a BEC (all-electric). It'll probably never exist.
It's tough to be different.
With the exception of the airbags you've just described a low-end Prius.

Why, on god's green Earth, would you NOT want airbags?
Feb 06, 2007, 11:07 AM
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Last year I was in the market for a used car and the Focus was one of the ones I was considering because of the good reviews the magazines gave them for handling. That was until I checked them out on the consumer websites and saw how many recalls, defects, and complaints they had about them.....YIKES !. "Handling" doesn't do me any good if the car sits broken down in the driveway all the time.

And the car makers wonder why people don't buy U.S. cars anymore....hmm, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Thanks to the internet I can avoid other people's mistakes. The marketing concept at GM used to be start 'em out in a Chevy, and eventually they'll move up to a Pontiac, Buick, then Cadillac as they get older. Nowadays, they'll buy a Cavalier or Cobalt to start out with because it's all they can afford, see what a piece of junk it really is, then permanently switch over to a foreign brand without ever reconsidering a U.S. brand again.
Feb 06, 2007, 11:19 AM
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Usta,

You might want to look at the owner loyalty numbers for GM. GM is at the top with Toyota just behind.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...16/034229.html
Feb 06, 2007, 11:42 AM
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Usta,

You might want to look at the owner loyalty numbers for GM. GM is at the top with Toyota just behind.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...16/034229.html

"Recent studies by Polk show consumers are consistently more loyal to Asian brands (47.6 percent), versus European (37.3 percent) and domestic makes (43.5 percent)."


I read THIS in a recent Car And Driver article ......"GM cars run bad longer than most cars run at all".

I actually DID wind up buying a Chevy......a re-badged Toyota Corolla sold as a Chevy Prizm....the other U.S. car I was looking at was a Pontiac Vibe (re-badged Toyota Matrix).

I read the NHTSA's consumer complaint listings too and wrote down the number of complaints for each model year car I was looking at at the time....

2002 Ford Focus- 672 complaints
2000 Chevy Cavalier- 353
2000 Ford Escort- 113
2002 Toyota Corolla- 65


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