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Old Dec 01, 2006, 03:36 PM
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Dumas Monitor and Merrimack kit


Has any one built the Dumas Montor and Merrimack kit? If so, I would like to have your opion about the kit. Was it easy to build? Was it worth the money spent for the kit? Are both hull ABS with wood super strucure? I know that the Monitor is 28 inches long and the Merrimack is 45 inches and dumas states the scale is 1/72. I did not realize the to boat size were so drimatically different. How to I calucate the size out to real life size. I would like to check if the size differantil was true.
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Old Dec 01, 2006, 03:52 PM
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The scale 1/72 means that 1 inch on the model would be 72 inches, or 6 feet, on the real ship. Therefore the Merrimack would have been 270 feet and the Monitor 168. Sounds about right. Check Google.
Old Dec 01, 2006, 05:11 PM
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420Tee, Thanks for the answer for the scale question. If I understand the math, that means that 1/20 scale is where to 1 inch is equal to 20 inches, so if a model boat is 39 inches long at 1/20 scale that the true lenght of the real boat is 39inches * 20inches = 780 inches or 65 feet. Wow, I think I got. Thanks.

That still leave me wondering, if this is a good begnner kit and what what ya'll think about this kit.
Old Dec 01, 2006, 05:20 PM
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I've got both....built now. Good detail. Nice kits. If you're near Indiana I'd sell you both, already built with radios, ESC in the CSS Virginia (nee USS Merrimac) motors, etc. for $300.
Old Dec 02, 2006, 12:53 PM
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WindW Yup, you've got it. Of course there are oddities. Most common scale for doll houses is 1/12, or 1 inch = 1 foot, but this is often referred to as 1/1, or 1 inch scale. Keeps it interesting.
Old Dec 02, 2006, 02:51 PM
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There is also another doll house scale, 1/24'th, 1/2" = 1'
This scale is also close to the G-scale train stuff.
Old Dec 02, 2006, 09:50 PM
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I've done a couple of doll houses in 144th scale to use as doll houses in 1 inch scale doll houses. Companies make them in laser cut parts. If only I could afford an electron microscope. LOL.
Old Dec 02, 2006, 10:34 PM
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The Dumas Monitor & Merrimac are close to HO model railroad scale. In fact I used some HO scale figures as crew on the models I have. If you look really closely at the photo above, you'll see a crew figure just forward of the stack on the Merrimac facing aft.
Old Dec 04, 2006, 02:33 PM
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CSS Virginia


I know that Dumas called their vessel the Merrimack, but that ship is the CSS Virginia. Just because they are ignorant, is no reason for ya'll to be. Here is a picture of the USS Merrimack

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...k%3Bh46248.jpg

What similarity do you see?

Throughout all of history ships have been captured and brought into the capturer's navy. I have never heard of one carrying the same name in the new navy, and this one is the only one that people want to call by the old name.

Sorry, it's a pet peave.

ME.
Old Dec 04, 2006, 05:12 PM
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Well Michaele69, look up at my December 1st post with the photo of the pair and you'll see the name was correct. Ya gotta read before ya talk.
Old Dec 04, 2006, 05:19 PM
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Sorry, it's a pet peave.

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I know how you feel. My pet peeve is spelling.
Old Dec 04, 2006, 06:15 PM
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That still leave me wondering, if this is a good begnner kit and what what ya'll think about this kit.[/QUOTE]

I would say this is not a good beginner kit, esp the Virginia (unless you have other modelling experience - trains, etc). The Monitor is straightforward enough, but the Dumas kit design/build approach took some modifications.

For a real beginner RC boat kit, try a VacUTug (at www.vac-u-boat.com)
Old Dec 05, 2006, 08:09 PM
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If you read a bit of history, the USS Merrimack burned to the waterline at Norfolk ship yard. The hulk was raised by the Confederacy in 1861 and rebuilt as an iron clad and renamed the CSS Virginia. The Monitor was "scratch built."
Don't know how the battle became known as the Monitor vs the Merrimack.
Old Dec 05, 2006, 11:14 PM
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Great information can be found here...
http://cssvirginia.org/
apparently, many of her officers & crew still referred to her as Merrimac(k)
Old Dec 06, 2006, 05:22 AM
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Don't know how the battle became known as the Monitor vs the Merrimack.
one reason the ship was still called the Merrimack is the confed sailors that were her crew were at one time in the US NAVY and the ship was the Merrimack to them then. The second reason is more of a superstition then anything else. It is bad luck to change the name of a vessel, even a salvaged one. The crew prolly didnt want to upset the ship by calling her the CSS Virginia so they dropped the USS part and kept the Merrimack. Merrimack was scuttled when the country split, the Union Officers realized that the ship would not be ready to sail before the shipyard had to be turned over so they set fire to the ship so it would not fall into confed hands (it did anyway and caused alot of dammage).

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