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May 11, 2009, 10:55 AM
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Hey Wylie... Have you checked out the Merlyn thread in the thermal section and seen how Rudderman is setting up the motor? I think that would work well on a Paragon. You might want to give it some consideration.

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Apr 18, 2015, 09:27 PM
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After a couple of months building mine, I maidened it a few hours ago at the Rose Bowl field. I arrived shortly after the Walk for Autism event was over so the field was nearly empty.

It was a bit gusty. First trim throws revealed that I just needed one or two clicks of down elevator. My CG is at the trailing edge of the main spar, rather than at the center of the spar.

Other than making and installing full shear webs a la Skybench Oly II, and installing the spoilers, the plane was built entirely stock-no mods or glassing the fuse or carbon caps or things like that since it is intended solely for hi start launches.

Using a Dynaflite heavy duty 120 in. planes full hi start, the Paragon took off almost vertically. No tendencies to veer to the right or left.

I have always wanted a Paragon ever since the year 2000.

I took months because I am a slow builder. I have the energy to just work on a bit of the plane a day. At times there were weeks when I did not do any building.

The most difficult thing was to build the wing's updated sheer webs.

Radio equipment: Futaba R617fs; 2 Hitec 311 standard servos for rudder and elevator; 2 Hitec HS-55 for the spoilers. Battery is a 1200 mAh NiMH.

Covering: Ultracote transparent blue; Ultracote transparent fluorescent yellow; Ultracote white regular.
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Apr 19, 2015, 12:12 AM
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Good looking sailplane ZP!! When I started in the hobby, I was talking to my LHS owner and bemoaned the fact that it was taking too long to build my first sailplane (a GL)., primarily due to life's challenges. His response was, "This is a hobby for fun and enjoyment, no matter how long it takes to finish a build. If you fret over how long it takes, It's no longer fun."

Did the yellow show up well at altitude? My eyes need something easy to pick out in the air.
Apr 19, 2015, 01:35 AM
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Good looking sailplane ZP!! When I started in the hobby, I was talking to my LHS owner and bemoaned the fact that it was taking too long to build my first sailplane (a GL)., primarily due to life's challenges. His response was, "This is a hobby for fun and enjoyment, no matter how long it takes to finish a build. If you fret over how long it takes, It's no longer fun."
Did the yellow show up well at altitude? My eyes need something easy to pick out in the air.
Thank you very much for the comment about the looks of my Paragon.

Yes. The yellow does show very well at altitude, and the white fuselage adds to the visibility as well.

Yellow and blue are my favorite colors.

It is so nice to see something that initially was all sticks and 2 rolls of full size plans morph into a 120 in. wingspan flying machine that flies well, and that was built with one's own efforts.

I have nothing against the ARFs that have become established in today's times, but still, one derives a pleasure from having built the plane from square one and being able to personalize it-to cover it your way, to become familiar with its structure so one can repair it if needed, to be able to correct any building problems as they come up in the construction steps, and so on.
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Apr 19, 2015, 09:01 AM
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I have nothing against the ARFs that have become established in today's times, but still, one derives a pleasure from having built the plane from square one and being able to personalize it-to cover it your way, to become familiar with its structure so one can repair it if needed, to be able to correct any building problems as they come up in the construction steps, and so on.
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Apr 19, 2015, 10:25 AM
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Very nice ZP!! The Paragon is next on my board as soon as I finish the Super QB 25L I'm building.

You can take it from me, the unrepentant Paragon addict.... you've done a beautiful job. Congrats on a successful maiden!
Apr 19, 2015, 12:21 PM
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Very nice ZP!! The Paragon is next on my board as soon as I finish the Super QB 25L I'm building.

You can take it from me, the unrepentant Paragon addict.... you've done a beautiful job. Congrats on a successful maiden!
Thank you very much. I always get uneasy about maidens...after watching some Youtube videos of maidens of beautiful airplanes that turned out to be last filghts, I do get uneasy but after the successful flight, I relax.

Take care!
May 03, 2015, 11:39 PM
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A few days ago I flew the Paragon again at the Rose Bowl; there were some electric power fliers.

After I finished some flights (one of them led me to a nice thermal that almost resulted in a speckout), I brought it near my car, and some of the power pilots commented that they were not aware that it was a very big plane-it looks like they haven't seen a Paragon before. Just wait until I finish the Skybench Challenger and they see it at the field.

I weighed the Paragon today at the local Fedex office, and the total weight is 50.3 ounces. Very close to the advertised weight of 48 ounces. I guess that the increase was because of the addition of spoilers driven by individual servos and the replacement of the stock shear webs with Skybench Oly II style full width shear webs.

Ze
May 04, 2015, 12:31 AM
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I have one NIB.
May 05, 2015, 07:42 PM
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So do I. It will be next on the board..... wait, didn't I already say that? Sorry for being repetitive.....

And I am seriously thinking about scratch building a Paramount this fall. Anyone wanna join me in a group build?
May 18, 2017, 11:14 PM
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I feel a little vindicated. In 1980 I built my first glider being the 72" wanderer. In 1981 I built my second glider being the 118" Pierce Aero Paragon. Loved this glider and had many successful flights using a rubber tubing high start. One afternoon a person arrived at the flight field with a home made hi-start powered by a car battery. He asked if I wanted to launch from it. I was only 17 years old at the time and said, sure. About 3/4 of the way up, I noticed the monokote on the wings starting to wrinkle as the wings began to bend. A moment later the wings folded and the plane fell to the ground. Figured at the time that I just built the main wings wrong. Now after reading the many posts on the forum, I feel it was more of a small design flaw and more of too much power on the winch.

Yesterday I downloaded some Paragon plans off the internet and made a copy at Kinkos. Gong to scratch build a new Paragon. I am so excited to start this project. Brings back great memories of my teenage years. I am going to incorporate spoilers, ailerons and and brushless motor on this build. Will post pictures during the building process. I plan to beef up the main spar this time. Researching the best method to accomplish this in the next few days.
May 19, 2017, 04:37 AM
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I would skip the ailerons. It won't give you much. You can cap the center section spar with some precured carbon strip. But on an electric paragon it isn't that critical.

Ryan
May 19, 2017, 03:16 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Didn't think the ailerons would do that much on such a big sailplane, but was just thinking of adding as a fun project. I enjoy building more then flying. Yes, don't plan on going too overboard on the main spar reinforcing as I won't be taking it up on a winch.

thanks again for your input.

John
May 19, 2017, 03:23 PM
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Personally I think ailerons would just add unnecessary weight at the tips (which you don't want) and unnecessary stuff to futz with/connect/etc.

I winch my paragon all the time. I capped the center section spars with some carbon uni. Probably equivalent of pre cured 014 carbon strip.

Ryan
May 19, 2017, 05:14 PM
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I just finished building one. Haven't even had a maiden flight yet, due to moving into a new house. Once I get the model table back together, I'll do the finishing touches and a new battery. Maybe in one or two more weeks I'll have it in the air. :>)

Scotty


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