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Aug 31, 2006, 06:43 PM
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You guys have to remember, that the competitions for both the springer, and polo tugs rely on the specifications being followed, and that all the tugs are practically the same. If you soup them up, they won't qualify for the events that were designed around them.

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Aug 31, 2006, 07:01 PM
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Nice looking Springer, James!

still on my build list!

As mentioned above, the SFMYC has an active schedule for the Springers (in San Francisco)... Nice folks running them too- I hope to join the Springer fun soon!

Sep 01, 2006, 02:30 PM
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Thanks, Aerominded

I built mine for fun use, but maybe I can get some intrest in the local club and start a springer class. Maybe I can get greeseaships (aka: cardboard man) as he is in my area to build one out of cardboard, what a challange!

der kapitan: Let us now how that fiberglass mold comes out.
Sep 01, 2006, 02:51 PM
Mmm, tugs...
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Got me a Springer on the ways now... built the hull last night, deck today, will 'glass it over. Gotta demo it for the club 1 week from now!

Pat M
Sep 01, 2006, 05:52 PM
"day ain't over yet-"
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Jameso5 said:"

Thanks, Aerominded

I built mine for fun use, but maybe I can get some intrest in the local club and start a springer class. Maybe I can get greeseaships (aka: cardboard man) as he is in my area to build one out of cardboard, what a challange!

der kapitan: Let us now how that fiberglass mold comes out."

Hi James,

Our club meeting is tomorrow night, and I'm going to run the concept past the members and see what happens. I know that at least four or more would go for it, whether I made a glass hull or not.

At the moment, I have the hull pattern on my desk, and if I get time, I'll cut
out some clear pine to start a plug. It looks like there is plenty of interest in this forum alone, so it's a go anyway.

It's reassuring that Pat could whack out the basics in one evening with no
problems. And he's a very busy guy---.
Sep 01, 2006, 07:05 PM
Mmm, tugs...
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Just a matter of priorities Karl! (and I got those pre-nups in the bag too).

Here's the status for tonight.

Sides are cut per plan from 3/16" luan ply.
Bottom is 3/32" balsa (this is all extra stuff lying around).
Since the balsa is kind of weak, I have braces inside.
Deck is 1/8" Masonite with more ribs... note bracket to mount servo UNDER deck. Stringers inside hull set the deck flush, no bulwarks on this one. Deck will get glassed to save the Masonite.
Stuffing tube is plain brass sandwiched into the skeg. Skeg is screw mounted to bottom, and reinforced with fiberglass.
First layer of glass is on the bottom, nice easy surface!

Pat M
Sep 01, 2006, 09:14 PM
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patmat2350 said:

"Just a matter of priorities Karl! (and I got those pre-nups in the bag too).

Here's the status for tonight.

Sides are cut per plan from 3/16" luan ply.
Bottom is 3/32" balsa (this is all extra stuff lying around).
Since the balsa is kind of weak, I have braces inside.
Deck is 1/8" Masonite with more ribs... note bracket to mount servo UNDER deck. Stringers inside hull set the deck flush, no bulwarks on this one. Deck will get glassed to save the Masonite.
Stuffing tube is plain brass sandwiched into the skeg. Skeg is screw mounted to bottom, and reinforced with fiberglass.
First layer of glass is on the bottom, nice easy surface!"

Hi Pat,

You make it look so easy that you may fool some guys reading this forum into tackling it.

I guess the name of the game is to use what's laying loose around the shop, and have at it. A lot of potential fun for not a lot of money---.
Sep 01, 2006, 10:23 PM
Mmm, tugs...
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HEY!
In post #3 in this thread, see the radio behind the Springer with the flag?
What is that thing, and how come it has FOUR sticks?
(looks like a JR 6 channel)

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Sep 01, 2006, 10:34 PM
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Good eye!!!!!!!!
Sep 01, 2006, 10:54 PM
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It is a modified Spektrum radio used to run the "Mustang", a twin screw tug built by Mel Suzle of NW R/C Ship Modelers. The radio is a conversion that Mel did him self.
Sep 01, 2006, 11:05 PM
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OK Keith, you're not getting off that easy... would this be the unit Umi was referring to in another thread? And we HAVE to know, just how did he do it?
Sep 01, 2006, 11:14 PM
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Yes it is and you would have to ask Mel just how he did that. He is an electronics person and likes to do that kind of thing.
Sep 02, 2006, 10:44 AM
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Amazing what people can come up with when they have the know-how, but as for me,
I have enough trouble handling just TWO sticks---.
Sep 02, 2006, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patmat2350
OK Keith, you're not getting off that easy... would this be the unit Umi was referring to in another thread? And we HAVE to know, just how did he do it?
It is, and it isn't...
Mine only has one side modified for dual sticks...

Mel removes, and replaces the gimbles with two custom made gimbles and centering pin, and he also adds a center support between the new gimbles. He then adds "futaba" style spring plates to return the sticks to center. Most of the mod is physical.
The only real electronic mod, if it can be considered electronic, is moving the potentiometer from the bottom of the gimble box to the side, and wiring it back to the trim board.

Like Cliff Shaw, who originally did mine, Mel says he isn't doing this for other people.
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Sep 02, 2006, 11:51 AM
Grumpa Tom
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Like Cliff Shaw, who originally did mine, Mel says he isn't doing this for other people.
Interesting. It is too bad. Sounds like an easy conversion for someone who is in the know, and an easy way to make hobby bucks because there are lots of people who would pay to have this work done.

Oh well!


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