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Apr 01, 2006, 10:18 AM
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X5J eXtreme April 15th & 16th Signup

X5J eXtreme 2006 and Event dates.

Welcome, back for the third year.

Please read all rules, rule 8 is new for 2006.

X5J eXtreme Rules:

1. Any electric sailplane can enter, to fly the following rounds, three 10-minute flights. One point per second of flight time, one point deducted for each second over the 10minute-flight time. Maximum points possible 600. Round to the closest second.

2. The BIG ONE, motor run time is unlimited but subtracted from the flight time. Example, 600 flight pts - 19 motor run pts = 581 total round pts.

Rules 1 and 2 are restated below:

The pilot will select three 10 minute flying windows, any motor run during this period of time will be subtracted at a rate of a point per second. Flight time will be one point per second (in 10 minutes 600pts minus motor run time points). Flight time exceeding the window will be one point for each second subtracted from flight time. (This rule now reads closer to F3J rules from FAI)

3. Landing points to be measured from the center of the landing circle, to the closest part of the plane. For each meter from the point subtract 3 points. See attached file for table.

4. Motor handicap: brushless 95%, brushed Cobalt 75%, Ferrite 45%, and Speed400 30%. Actual motor run rounded to the closest second. Then multiplied by the motor percentage. Round this calculated value to the closest 1/10th of a second.

5. Your flight is limited, a single dawn to dusk flight day of your choosing, during a 48 hour period.

6. Any type of battery cell is legal.

7. Temperature Factor to be added to total flight score. See the attachment for the temperature table.

New Rule

8. You may restart your, motor as many times, as needed, but on the second motor start, you may not add landing points. A second way of stating this rule. If you start your motor after launch run of the motor, you will not receive any landing points.

Timers still need two stopwatches, this was easier then I thought it would be. Work out a signal with the pilot, if he is going to restart the motor. (I.e. "")

This is the simplest way of scoring I have been able to come up with.

Flight time - closest second
Motor run - closest second
Calculated motor run - closest 1/10th of a second
Landing points - see table Rule #3

To compete: Please list your plane, gearbox, prop, cells and type, weight, and any other interesting facts, pictures are always welcome, to this thread.If someone else, not on the Web would like to fly with you please list him or her, on or by April 14th.

To all who enter,

The Best


The following are the dates for X5J eXtreme 2006:Feb. 18th and 19th
March 11th and 12th
April 15th and 16th
May 27th and 28th
June 3rd and 4th
July 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th
August 19th and 20th
Sept. 16th and 17th

October 27th to the 29th Munice, Indiana, USA
First X5J World Competition 2006, events at the National field.
X5J Speed400, X5J eXtreme, and X5J Unlimited
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Apr 03, 2006, 01:53 AM
Hi Robert

You can count me in. I'll be flying the Graupner Cumulus with speed 400 power. I've been playing around with 3S Lipo batteries and have proped down accordingly to a 12X7. I'm getting much better climb out.


Apr 03, 2006, 05:58 AM
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What is the difference between X5J eXtreme and X5J unlimited?
Apr 03, 2006, 10:19 AM
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I hope to fly again with my Allegro Lite. Speed 400 DD, 6x3 folder, 1320 2S lipo.

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Apr 04, 2006, 04:58 AM
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Hello Robert,
I'm in again with my Art Hobby High Aspect. B40-9L/4.4:1GB, CC60, 15x10 prop & 10C GP2000/1950FAUPs.

Let's hope for good weather and good thermals.
Apr 04, 2006, 07:11 AM
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fwiw, sky sergio, power system undecided..

Apr 05, 2006, 10:58 AM
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What is the difference between X5J eXtreme and X5J unlimited?

X5J Unlimited, at the National Site, will be run without a motor handicap.

You could fly all three events with one plane, and two motor systems. A speed 400 size plane, with a speed 400 for X5J Speed 400, limited to speed 400 motors only. X5J eXtreme, motor handicap. Then change to a brushless setup, and fly X5J unlimited.

The Best
Apr 06, 2006, 06:00 AM
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I'll give it a try this time too. Nano Floh with free flight wing, speed 400, 3 Lipos, 6x3 prop.
Apr 06, 2006, 09:50 AM
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Here we go again. This time I will probably fly a Organic 2,5 my uncle had set up. Kontronik 42-60, 6,7:1 gear, 8xGP2000, 16x13, Beat 80 with BEC.
Last edited by jojoen; Apr 07, 2006 at 12:04 PM.
Apr 06, 2006, 11:34 AM

I'm in again with ???????

Apr 09, 2006, 04:39 AM
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Snow is over, so I'm ready to fly. I will fly my Dingo 3 with Speed 400, 6x3 prop and 7xSanyo 800AAE.
Apr 11, 2006, 08:36 AM
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Posting for my friend John:

Goldberg electra knock-off, ferrite speed 370 can motor on gws C drive, 8 900MAH kan cells, all up is about 34 ounces.

John Olafson
Apr 11, 2006, 12:09 PM
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I try again, but with new setup...

I try again, but with new motorsetup, the plane and battery is the same, Simply The Best, PQ-1200XP-3s, Hacker B20-15L+4:1, Hacker X-30 speedcontroller whit 2-4 servo bec, SIMPROP/Cam-Carbon 10X7.

This new motor saved me over 82 gram, so now I am at 493 gram.
I belive this weightsaving is the big secrect for a WIN.

I also changed the servos to GWS IQ 120BB, the old one´s where old

Sending a picture of my companions (almost the hole family) on the field.

...see you on the podium

Last edited by liukku; Apr 11, 2006 at 12:40 PM.
Apr 13, 2006, 06:19 AM
I'll take part with the model Highlight unlimited 1.8m
motor Speed: 400 + 1:4.4 gear +Graupner Gear Prop 12x10
8x1200mAh Nimh accu

Apr 13, 2006, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kiku
I'll take part with the model Highlight unlimited 1.8m
motor Speed: 400 + 1:4.4 gear +Graupner Gear Prop 12x10
8x1200mAh Nimh accu

Cool. Finally a girl in here!!!
Good luck!

Regards Jojo

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