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Jan 22, 2006, 06:01 AM
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Rhino 3D - Online - Workshop



Hi guys! - Welcome first!

The sign in is not yet closed ( tomorrow it will be), but I start the whorkshop just today. This shall help those of you having a lower speed connection to download the first two packages (0 + 1) properly in time.

Every new step will be published here in the first post, so we may get a kind of book.

Because I'm developing this tutorial in realtime, I have to test it a bit by client.
This means I recomment your feedback about missunderstanding and difficulties to optimize by evaluating this!
The packages I publish all have an index, for you to see what has changed.
What not particularily means that after a change, you have to do the single quest several times. The principle workflow will (mostly) be the same but perhaps something is getting another explanation. After each step you should use MY SOLUTION for the start of the next step - so we are all on the same start and revisions should be updated.

For the "syntax" of the filenames:
<packagex>defines the package; <.y> defines the revision; <_z>defines the part; <_a>of this amount of packages.

So <Package1.1_c_c.zip> means the last part (3rd of 3); of revision 1; of Package 1 - everything ok????

And here are the first two Packages:

The first package (0) contains the basics informaton to the workshop and the Rhino system adjustments you will have to make ( mostly are made by the system but please check this back in every single case).

I want to introduce a progress bar/ table, not to put pressure on you, but for me to know, where everyone of you is working on! What helps me to adapt the speed of my work on your common progress, not to loose someone or to be too slow. Please support me in filling this for a better control!!
__________________________________________________ _______________
__________________________________0 1 2 3 4 5 6
1. Dave - alias RNAF______________f f f f f f d
2. Nando - alias ICE WIND_________f f f f ? ? ?
3. - alias PROTORIP______________ ? ? ? ? OUT
4. Luis - alias LOV 1_____________f f f f f f f
5. Frank - alias Frank K._________f f f f f f ?
6. Mike - alias TexasAce__________? ? ? ? OUT
7. Joe - alias Mistair Joe________f d ? ? OUT
8. Chad- alias denverone__________f f f f f f d
9. - alias cliffo_________________? ? ? ? OUT
10. Paul - alias Zimbo____________f f f f f
11. - alias THend_________________? ? ? ? OUT
12. Daniel - alias DONGO__________f f f d
13. Eric - alias Steff____________f f f f f f d
14. John - alias Darkdevil_725____? ? ? ? OUT
15. Vince- alias StormySky________f f f f f f ?
16. David - alias Newcomer________f f f f f
17. Bob - alias Bobber Bob________f f a a a a
18. Mark - alias MHarms___________f f f f f f ?
19. Martin - alias Martin C Wendel f f f f f f ?
20. Istvan - alias Istvan Noszvai_f f f f f ?
21. Scott - alias BeamerDr________f f f f i ? ?
22. Rick - alias Rick Calloway____f f f f ? ?

F = Finished; I = In Progress; D= Downloaded; A = Auditing;? = No Reply
__________________________________________________ _______________


The Adjustments:
http://people.freenet.de/Modellbauwa...age0.1_a_a.zip

Package two (1) contains the first advices to adjust the 2D sources to the system.
The advisory:
http://people.freenet.de/Modellbauwa...age1.1_a_c.zip
The sources:
http://people.freenet.de/Modellbauwa...age1.1_b_c.zip
The solution:
http://people.freenet.de/Modellbauwa...age1.1_c_c.zip

Package tree (2) contains the first half of chapter two - I separated this in two, because it takes some time so the trial user are able to finish this unit without saving
The advisory:
http://people.freenet.de/Modellbauwa...age2.1_a_b.zip
The solution:
http://people.freenet.de/Modellbauwa...age2.1_b_b.zip

Package four (3) contains the continued chapter 2. This will be a challenge for you but it leads to the meshed and skinned fuse - work precisely - select the points i call for and everything will be fine with this!
The advisory - as usual:
http://216.199.117.90/Package3.1_a_b.zip
And the solution
http://216.199.117.90/Package3.1_b_b.zip

Package five (4) contains chapter 3. Elevators and rudder just solid - as it is needed for differential thrust control. Short but you will have to work a bit more for "yourself" - but questions are always welcome - so, don't worry!!!

The advisory - as usual:
http://216.199.117.90/Package4.1_a_b.zip
And the solution
http://216.199.117.90/Package4.2_b_b.zip

Package six (5) contains chapter 4. It is about the wings!!!
Please reload the start up solution Package4.2_b_b.zip

The advisory - as usual:
http://216.199.117.90/Package5.1_a_b.zip
And the solution
http://216.199.117.90/Package5.1_b_b.zip

Package7 (6) contains the nacells - mainly your ting but you should make it-
The final step of this course!!!

The advisory - as usual:
http://216.199.117.90/Package6.1_a_b.zip
And the solution
http://216.199.117.90/Package6.1_b_b.zip


Have much fun!!!

Hansjoerg

Please don't CHAT here OFF TOPIC. I just want to prevent chaos in this thread!

But if you would post a short log when downloaded or finished a single step just for me, to be up to date!
Last edited by Harpye; Apr 25, 2006 at 01:13 PM.
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Jan 22, 2006, 11:47 AM
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basic adjustments 0.3.1
should be "select toolbar layout" picky, i know, but it confused me for a moment.
david
Jan 22, 2006, 12:06 PM
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Hi David!

I didn'd use always the full sentence - I know - but because the parameters come up in the same order, I thought this is ok so - if there comes more feedback, I will rework this part...

anyway else - everything fine ??

Hansjoerg
Jan 22, 2006, 01:00 PM
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Hansjoerg,
having trouble with defining length of line element
david
Jan 22, 2006, 01:18 PM
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Hi David! Should be easy -

-Choose Polyline

-Type [0,0,0] + [Enter] for to place the startingpoint on the origin
( only the text in the [] and not the [] themselves - and take care on the Shift lock - Rhino can't understand [==])

-Type [300] + [Enter] for the length
and you have defined the length!

Hansjoerg
Tell me if you made it!!
Last edited by Harpye; Jan 22, 2006 at 01:27 PM.
Jan 22, 2006, 02:53 PM
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Hansjoerg
Have downloaded.

Eric
Jan 22, 2006, 03:32 PM
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Hansjoerg,
worked beautifully. i was including the [ ]. told you i was a complete newbe.
many thanks. i'm really going to enjoy this tutorial. already looking into purchasing RHINO.
david
Jan 22, 2006, 03:33 PM
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Hints


Hey all!

For the people who know the basics of "BackgroundBitmaps" may want to advance to a higher level. What I am describing here is only a hint. Don't confuse yourself. Use this only to try. Otherwise, use Hansjoerg's method:

For placing a BackgroundBitmap type in Dialog:
-backgroundbitmap -press enter-(after the "b" you can already press enter)
Look what pops up in the dialog box. You see several options with an underline. E.g.: Place.
If you want to use an option, just type the letter that's underlined. It will perform that command.
-press "P" followed by enter. Now select the bitmap you want (jpeg, jpg, bmp etc.)

So what you do is: B (enter) P (enter) !!!!
This is quicker than explained by Hansjoerg. Not much better, if you don't know how it all works, but it's faster. I really recommend sticking to Hansjoerg's method. This is just for people who are already a bit familliar with Rhino.

This is the same with almost everything else in the program. Instead of choosing "Options" - "Sweep 2 rails" you can also just type in dialog: sweep2 (just an example).

Note: if you wish to exit the "backgroundbitmap" in dialog box, just press enter. I prefer pressing ESC, since then you'll illuminate the probability of performing any command that has to do with the backgroundbitmap (or any other case like Sweep 2 rails.

Just my 2 cents,
Dave
Last edited by RNAF; Jan 22, 2006 at 05:04 PM.
Jan 22, 2006, 03:40 PM
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Hey Hansjoerg,

have downloaded everything. This step (part one) took me ~30-45 minutes.
In the meanwhile, I'll redo this whole step for extra training (I feel it's not unwise for me to try again, but without the tutorial - except for the dimensions- )

Changed my avatar

Greets,
Dave
Last edited by RNAF; Jan 22, 2006 at 04:50 PM.
Jan 22, 2006, 03:57 PM
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David - Nice to hear that the problem was so tiny...!!

Dave - always nice avatar ( if there will join another nationality - I have to change the format of my logo)!!! - until tomorrow ... Betatesting !

Eric - Good Luck!!
Last edited by Harpye; Jan 22, 2006 at 04:30 PM.
Jan 22, 2006, 06:17 PM
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I have made my adjustements and downloaded. Joe
Jan 23, 2006, 03:32 AM
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downloaded, I'll take a look at ie tonight

Thanks Hansjoerg !
Jan 23, 2006, 04:53 AM
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Hello Joe; Frank; Eric - Any results, yet???
Jan 23, 2006, 05:15 AM
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Hello HJ,

not yet, but I got through the first two parts of the tutorial on your website with just 1 problem: the vertical lines that should be in the center fuselage of the P38, appear in the left boom. Probably I did not position the origin in the right place...

(the most difficult part was however to translate the german commands into english...)

I'll try again tonight.

Grtz,
Frank
Jan 23, 2006, 05:24 AM
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Hello Frank! - Is is totally new stuff! - Another plane and an ENGLISH written tutorial ( that is why I do this once more) - download the data in post# 1 in this thread to go on!!!


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