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Dec 21, 2005, 06:47 PM
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X5J eXtreme NEW YEARS DAY 2006 SignUp F5J and X5J to be held at the AMA National site

X5J eXtreme 2006

One Day only. Bring your gloves. Welcome, back for the third year.

Please read all rules, rule 8 is new for 2006.

X5J eXtreme Rules:

1. Any electric sailplane can enter, to fly the following rounds, three 10-minute flights. One point per second of flight time, one point deducted for each second over the 10minute-flight time. Maximum points possible 600. Round to the closest second.

2. The BIG ONE, motor run time is unlimited but subtracted from the flight time. Example, 600 flight pts - 19 motor run pts = 581 total round pts.

Rules 1 and 2 are restated below:

The pilot will select three 10 minute flying windows, any motor run during this period of time will be subtracted at a rate of a point per second. Flight time will be one point per second (in 10 minutes 600pts minus motor run time points). Flight time exceeding the window will be one point for each second subtracted from flight time. (This rule now reads closer to F3J rules from FAI)

3. Landing points to be measured from the center of the landing circle, to the closest part of the plane. For each meter from the point subtract 3 points. See attached file for table.

4. Motor handicap: brushless 95%, brushed Cobalt 75%, Ferrite 45%, and Speed400 30%. Actual motor run rounded to the closest second. Then multiplied by the motor percentage. Round this calculated value to the closest 1/10th of a second.

5. Your flight is limited to occuring on New Years Day 2006.

6. Any type of battery cell is legal.

7. Temperature Factor to be added to total flight score. See the attachment for the temperature table.

New Rule

8. You may restart your, motor as many times, as needed, but on the second motor start, you may not add landing points.
A second way of stating this rule. If you start your motor after launch run of the motor, you will not receive any landing points.

Timers still need two stopwatches, this was easier then I thought it would be. Work out a signal with the pilot, if he is going to restart the motor. (I.e. "")

This is the simplest way of scoring I have been able to come up with.

Flight time - closest second
Motor run - closest second
Calculated motor run - closest 1/10th of a second
Landing points - see table Rule #3

On or by Dec 30th.
To compete: Please list your plane, gearbox, prop, cells and type, weight, and any other interesting facts, pictures are always welcome, to this thread.If someone else, not on the Web would like to fly with you please list him or her.

To all who enter,

The Best


The following are the dates for X5J eXtreme 2006:

Feb. 18th and 19th
March 11th and 12th
April 15th and 16th
May 27th and 28th
June 3rd and 4th
July 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th
August 19th and 20th
Sept. 16th and 17th

October 27th to the 29th Munice, Indiana, USA
First F5J and X5J events at the National field.
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Dec 21, 2005, 07:13 PM
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Finally some clever rules about Electric sailplanes competition!

I like it!!


Dec 22, 2005, 04:31 AM
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Hmmmm So let me know how many seconds motorrun you will use boys. So I can use a few seconds less....
I am in with a Graphite built up, Hacker B50-6S, 6,7:1 gear, 18x11 Aeronaut and 9xGP2200
Dec 22, 2005, 05:07 AM
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I will be in with the Organic on 7 cells flying at Alstonville NSW. I don't expect a temperature bonus other than the one for putting up with over 100 deg farenheit in the shade.

By the way. I like Rule 8. It will be a real challenge and much more like F3J. It will certainly take a lot of getting used to, at least for me. Its great to see a change in the rules as it keeps the competition fresh.

Compliments of the season to all.
Dec 22, 2005, 06:36 AM
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Much better.. thx for the rule change! (of course, once again, unable to compete!!)
Dec 22, 2005, 08:40 AM
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I hope to compete again

Always enjoy this postal. Do wish/suggest it could be open for the entire weekend though like we normally do. New Years day this year is on a Sunday.

I will be flying an Allegro Lite, speed 400 direct drive to a 6x3 folder, 2S1320 Thunder Power pack.

Latest blog entry: Supergee wing mount pylons
Dec 22, 2005, 09:02 AM
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Will try to participate

Have not decided which glider yet, have two choices:
1: A rebuild(have been broken several times) 140cm HLG with Speed 400, 6x3 and [email protected]
2: A light 200cm RE-glider with AXI 2808/24, 9x6, [email protected]

A cold factor will get me some extra points, New Years Day normally are about -10 -> 0 degrees Celsius i Stockholm/Sweden
Dec 22, 2005, 10:45 AM
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Count me in.

Allegro Light wing on an Art Hobby fuse.
AXI AC2212/34
LiPo PolyQ 1500 3 cell
Falco 11x6.5
Temperture for Mobile, AL - past years the range has been 10 to 72 degrees.

Dec 22, 2005, 11:31 AM
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Hope to compete this time. I'm not sure what I'll fly yet though.

Ernie Schlumberger
Dec 22, 2005, 01:07 PM
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Count me in again too. I will be using either my Art Hobby High-Aspect 3.1E, B40-9L+4.4+15x12 prop+ 10 GP2000 cells or a modified Omega with a bigger wing and new motor (depends on how much I finish over the week off). Weather here has been terrible, so I suspect I will get snowed out, but you never know.

Cheers to all in this holiday season!

Dec 22, 2005, 02:44 PM
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My first time out. I will try my luck with a Simply The Best, Plettenberg HP200/20/6 whith Kruse picogear 3:1, PQ-1200XP-3s ,SLIM-26 esc, propeller 9,5x5 or 10x6 (have not done all tests yet),
For jojoen knowledge, I will use 60 seconds motorrun, less is not enough.

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Dec 22, 2005, 02:48 PM
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Hope i can get to the field and the brrrrreezes aren't wet.
Ascent (maybe with my extension to 2 meter, maybe stock wing) still experimenting..
Mega outrunner
9x4.5 cam
TP 1320 3S

every race needs some 'also ran' entries.
Dec 22, 2005, 03:27 PM
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Two Swedes and a Norwegian!! Nordic countries getting big here now. Just need a couple of Danes then.
One part of me hope for a lot of eXtreme temperature and another part does not.. Anyhow I will be charged
Dec 22, 2005, 04:01 PM
Hello! One Swede to!

Count me in.

Softik 1.4. Modify with new boom and tail. APACHE APS 30-30T,
AP Air-30A speed controller, 10x6 or 11x6 prop, PQ-1200XP-3s or PQ-1800XP-3s
flying weight is 450g with 1200XP, or 500g with 1800XP.

Or my "orginal" Softik fuse with Sp400 6v, gear 3:5, 11x6 prop, JES20 speed controller, PQ-1200XP-3s.
Flying weight is 460g.

Johan Lindell from Sweden
Last edited by Johan L; Dec 30, 2005 at 10:30 AM.
Dec 22, 2005, 04:34 PM
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I'm flying my MC-5. 100'' WS, 56 oz, B40L-LMR, 14x9.5, 9 CP-1700.

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