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Nov 23, 2021, 11:41 AM
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Eachine Spitfire 2.4GHz EPP 400mm




Eachine Spitfire 2.4GHz 4CH 400mm Wingspan 6-Axis One-Key U-Turn Aerobatic Xpilot Stabilization System EPP Mini RC Airplane RTF for Trainer Beginner


Description:

Brand: Eachine

Model: Spitfire

Wingspan: 400mm (15.75 inches)

Length: 317mm (12.48 inches)

Flying weight: 0.1lbs

Material: EPP

Motor: 1020 Coreless Motor

Battery: 3.7V 400mah 20C

Charger: USB cable

Remote control: 2.4GHz 4CH

Remote control distance: more than 200 meters

Experience level: Beginners

Where to play: Outdoor

Is Assembly required: No

Flight time: 15mins


Features:

* Using high-strength EPP foam and carbon fiber reinforcement to make the product performance and quality better and more stable.

* Use 1020 high-efficiency coreless motor, with stronger power.

* Adopt 6-axis gyroscope. It has a stable, fast and accurate flight attitude, which is especially suitable for beginners to fly.

* Using 2.4GHZ communication protocol, can play several airplanes at same time.

* With a one-key rollover function, novices can also make cool actions.

* One-key return home function, after setting according to the manual, you can use this button to make the aircraft fly back when you can’t see the aircraft clearly.

* Professional customized high-rate lithium polymer 3.7V 400mah 20C battery with high discharge rate and long service life. The flight time is about 15 minutes, and the normal use can reach 500+ cycles.

* Dedicated USB 3.7V lithium battery charger, with balance charge and charge stability function.


fifth, it looks great.....
https://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Spi...ategoryToysNew
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Nov 23, 2021, 11:56 AM
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Nice!

Can't wait to get one!
Nov 23, 2021, 01:53 PM
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Awesome!

QUOTE: US$118.99 + $19 shipping.

TERRIBLE!
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Nov 23, 2021, 04:03 PM
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Awesome!

QUOTE: US$118.99 + $19 shipping.

TERRIBLE!
Yup, give it a couple of weeks!


Tommy
Nov 23, 2021, 07:03 PM
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Probably not. The ME-109 has been out for some time now and it's not budging. It took over 6 months for the A160 cub and Eachine Cessna 550 to drop to the $70-$80 range before I bought them.

I'm in no hurry. Plenty going on in the mod hangar/doghouse already as it is.


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* Professional customized high-rate lithium polymer 3.7V 400mah 20C battery with high discharge rate

A "high-rate" claim AND a "high-discharge" boast for a battery with a lowly 20C current output capability?



Last edited by AirDOGGe; Nov 23, 2021 at 07:11 PM.
Nov 23, 2021, 08:11 PM
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Sweet! I already have one at the background and will wait for a barging before I tested the Eachine version out!
This is from the unboxing video I recorded yesterday
Nov 23, 2021, 10:02 PM
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Interesting the 2 color option. Just one scheme for the Spitty?
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Nov 23, 2021, 10:31 PM
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Well, it's about time!
Nov 23, 2021, 10:41 PM
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A "high-rate" claim AND a "high-discharge" boast for a battery with a lowly 20C current output capability?
Well, it's all relative. If it does indeed give a flight time of 15 minutes, and there's no reason to doubt it, as the P-51 gets that long, then the average current from the battery must be no more than 1.6A, which is 4C for a 400mAh battery. Even if we assume that at times, say in aerobatic manoeuvres, the current is double the average, it's still only 8C.

My friend jj604 often tests batteries very exhaustively, and the C ratings he measures are rarely anywhere near the claimed ones. The P-51 batteries are much better than required for the plane, and if these ones are too, that is all I ask.

I note also that we get "balance charge" with the charging cable. Easy to do with a 1S.
Last edited by 1auriec; Nov 24, 2021 at 12:28 AM.
Nov 24, 2021, 02:09 AM
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You get a 15 minute flight time because the gear-reduction drive and 10mm motor are low draw. But that's not the point here.


For aircraft batteries, 20C is at the low end. I have seen a 15C rating but no lower and that was on a toy. Compare that with my Ultrix packs with a 35C rating, nearly double that of the no-brand pack. My boat packs go even higher.

Apples or oranges, 20C is not a "HIGH DISCHARGE" rate for an RC model LI-Po battery be it for a car, boat or plane. Just marketing bull.



No need to defend Bang Good's claims. They are well known for posting things wrong accidentally or intentionally, like brushed coreless motors advertised as "brushless" for one example.

For another example they had a page for a micro drone ESC for $10 that showed a photo of the ESC, and then another page that showed a photo displaying two of the exact same ESCs and a price $2 higher. Anyone would think the higher price was for two of these ESCs since that's what the photo showed.

In truth, both pages were for a quantity of just one example of the very same ESC, only one page stated a higher price and displayed two ESCs side-by-side. THAT, my friends, is an out-an-out scam. They do it with Eachine propellers too. Many buyers in the reviews say they felt cheated/scammed. BG is not worth defending.
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Nov 24, 2021, 06:05 AM
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You get a 15 minute flight time because the gear-reduction drive and 10mm motor are low draw. But that's not the point here.


For aircraft batteries, 20C is at the low end. I have seen a 15C rating but no lower and that was on a toy. Compare that with my Ultrix packs with a 35C rating, nearly double that of the no-brand pack. My boat packs go even higher.

Apples or oranges, 20C is not a "HIGH DISCHARGE" rate for an RC model LI-Po battery be it for a car, boat or plane. Just marketing bull.



No need to defend Bang Good's claims. They are well known for posting things wrong accidentally or intentionally, like brushed coreless motors advertised as "brushless" for one example.

For another example they had a page for a micro drone ESC for $10 that showed a photo of the ESC, and then another page that showed a photo displaying two of the exact same ESCs and a price $2 higher. Anyone would think the higher price was for two of these ESCs since that's what the photo showed.

In truth, both pages were for a quantity of just one example of the very same ESC, only one page stated a higher price and displayed two ESCs side-by-side. THAT, my friends, is an out-an-out scam. They do it with Eachine propellers too. Many buyers in the reviews say they felt cheated/scammed. BG is not worth defending.
I think more often they just get things wrong rather than deliberately trying to deceive. For example, the Pathfinder Explorer was advertised as having a brushed motor - but it's brushless and actually very good. It was corrected after I pointed it out. I do cut some slack for BG because they are not a specialised hobby retailer, unlike Hobby King, who I am pretty sure do seek to deceive sometimes. BG relies heavily on the information received from their supplier. I have often pointed out errors to them, and to give them their due, they usually fix them, and very quickly too.

Did you ever test your 35C packs to see if they can really deliver it? I would rather see a 20C pack advertised as such rather than as 40C when it isn't.

I stick to my point about the warbirds batteries. The planes don't even require a 10C pack, let alone a 20C, so you would never even know that they are only 20C unless you used them in a plane that draws a much higher current. I have actually used my warbird packs in other planes, and quadcopters, and they stand up at least as well as my other 300-400mAh packs. There is nothing wrong with them.

I had a look at the ads for the T-28 and the P-51, and I note they don't even mention the C rating at all. Perhaps they would have been better not to mention the C rating for this one then people could have saved their criticisms for something that is actually relevant.
Nov 24, 2021, 06:19 AM
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I bought these ""35C" ....
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000515981817.html
they are no better than the original .....
same thing.....but cheaper......
Nov 24, 2021, 07:30 AM
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Been waiting for this.


Not a bad Spitty representation, but I might cut that rudder down a tad.

Looks like a great addition to my collection, likely similar to my ParkZone UMX (that I very rarely fly).
Last edited by WingCommanderRF; Nov 25, 2021 at 07:31 PM.
Nov 24, 2021, 11:40 AM
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hmmm.....
in these eachine rendered images ....
it looks like the ailerons are connected internal. ...
Nov 24, 2021, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bugar
I bought these ""35C" ....
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000515981817.html
they are no better than the original .....
same thing.....but cheaper......

Gotta shop smart these days. They look just like the cheap ones. Do they say 35C anywhere on the pack itself?


I have pointed out errors at BG many times and they were not corrected. I'm sure they make mistakes, but they have their intentional flaws too. One I suffered recently was a warranty on a headband camera. The cam came with a factory 1 year warranty but BG will only honor 6 months on all electronics regardless of what warranty they may come with. No angels running that show.
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