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Mobius Maxi 4K Support Thread (Please Read First 6 Posts First)


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This thread is hosted by Mobius M4K users, not the camera developer, and is part of a radio controlled model web site in a Forum dedicated to Aerial Photography. As such, the content of this thread is intended to focus on the topic of the Mobius M4K Actioncam and it's operation and capabilities for aerial video purposes, NOT other cameras from the Mobius developer. A basic comparison of those other cameras can be found in this User Thread.

There will be users interested in the M4K for purposes other than aerial video, and you are welcome here for the purpose of helping you with the camera's operation. But issues with adapting the camera to uses other than aerial video are considered off topic, and should be discussed in other forums or threads, e.g.:Video links posted here should relate to the RC aerial video topic area. Examples of off topic videos are:
  • Car driving recorder videos
  • Biking videos
  • Video of RC cars and boats
  • Routine ground scene videos to show off your new camera (I know you're excited, but...)

    Exceptions: Any video that shows a specific problem with the camera's operation or a solution for those problems are desired and will help others regardless of how they might use their Maxi.
Suggestions for camera feature improvements should be well thought out as having broad appeal, and realistic within the bounds of this camera's uniqueness for size, weight, and price point. Most of these will be firmware related, not physical redesign. The camera developer monitors this thread and has implemented many features from user input. You can also forward suggestions to the developer directly (see Post #2 for contact info)

Finally, this thread is a "self-help" thread! The 5 "info posts" following this one contain much information that can answer many user questions. These info posts will be updated as needed with new information. It is my intent and expectation that thread posters will "do their homework" and access these posts before posting new questions. If you still have questions, the advanced thread search function should be used to help find posts that relate to your issue. This will not only help keep the thread from becoming bloated with redundant questions that have been asked and answered many times, it will also keep the thread more interesting to the target audience.

If this is your first time reading this thread, please read the next 5 posts now to familiarize yourself with this thread's structure and resources. These "InfoThreads" will be updated with any new information of general interest, so always check here first before asking questions.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation!
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Vendors and Specifications


The Mobius M4K is a major evolution of the original Mobius Maxi, adding 4K-30fps video capability with new more energy efficient video imaging components. The M4K case is essentially the same size as the Maxi, with a case extension surrounding the lens for better protection and a definitive rounded shape of the heat sink plate.The firmware will continue to mature and be refined as much as possible. The developer monitors this thread for user feedback on the camera's functionality.

Verified Vendors

You are advised to only buy your M4K from a developer-verified source. Verified vendors not only sell the real M4K camera, accessories, and some replacement parts, they have pledged a commitment to customer satisfaction, both before and after a sale, and are your first contact if any early problems are found and not caused by user abuse, crash damage, etc. If parts are not listed on their sites, use their web site contact link to request what you need. Payment via PayPal is usually available. The developer's China eBay direct seller (eletoponline365.com) is the official source for the camera's sold by re-sellers, and will usually have the lowest delivered prices as well as common replacement parts not listed in store web pages. The web site contact link or regular email [email protected]) are ways to contact the development team with specific questions or problems that are not answered here.

Other verified re-sellers identified by the developer will also be listed here. Re-sellers may offer quicker delivery depending on your location. Prices can vary from one vendor to the other and depends on what is included in different accessory packages as well as other import fees if applicable. The cost from the China direct seller eBay outlets will be nominally about US$ 99 with free shipping.

Developer's Direct Seller:
China: eletoponline365
Verified Re-sellers:
Europe: Webbex (UK); Mobius-cam (English); Mobius-cam (Dutch)
Non-verified sellers may be selling fake imitation cameras at seemingly bargain prices, and you should be wary of buying from them.

NOTE: Both users and vendors are expected to abide by this forum and thread vendor communication protocol.
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Firmware and Configuration Settings


Camera Configuration and Firmware Information

mSetup.exe Windows GUI Tool
This post has an overview of the Windows mSetup graphical user interface (GUI) software program authored by Isoprop, as well as the link for downloading it and his detailed Maxi 4K User Guide.
It is strongly recommended that users with Windows PCs always use the mSetup program to change camera settings and update firmware. This program has pop-up tool tips for most functions to give users helpful info on their purpose, and also will not allow selections to be made that may not be compatible with other function settings.

mTool.exe Windows Configuration tool
This is a streamlined Windows program from the camera developer that can also change config settings from a lists of available functions with setting choices displayed in drop down boxes for each function that are selected by a mouse click. This program, however, has no tool tips for function help and will not reject user settings that may interfere with other functions. The program comes with a very comprehensive User Manual that can be accessed from within the program via it's Help Menu, or separately as a standalone reference. This tool is available for download below.

Official Mobius web site with Mobius Maxi 4K support files
This new web site (still under development) has been set up by the Mobius developer with links for downloading all the latest MM4k firmware and software support tools in one place.

Maxi 4K Smart Phone Apps
The Maxi 4K (M4K) has built in WiFi capability, but there is currently NO M4K specific APPs available for either Android or iOS smart phones. There are, however, free generic "icatch" camera APPs available from the respective phone system stores that are suitable for streaming live video in full resolution from the M4K to facilitate things like lens focusing, camera alignment, etc. Some phones will also respond to some of the generic camera controls for changing resolutions/frame rates, IQ settings, etc., but these will vary from one phone to another and are not reliable, so use those advanced functions at your own risk.

NOTE: The camera WiFi signal is weak with a very short range and high latency. Do NOT attempt to use this function for FPV flying!

New user settings can be also be loaded into the camera manually as a last resort (see below), but it requires specific file editing procedures that are prone to user typo errors if not careful. Also, there are some function settings which conflict with each other if both are set. The camera cannot be damaged if conflicting function choices are set, but the camera may ignore a setting, revert to a default setting, or respond differently from what was expected. The mSetup GUI program will not permit these conflicting settings to be set, so do yourself a favor and use mSetup if possible.

Optional Manual User Configuration Setting Procedure Via Config Text File Editing

The manual method is done by editing a file on the memory card the camera uses. If a Windows PC is not available or your camera does not connect in USB removeable disk mode with a standard USB-C cable, you can still change camera settings if you can access the memory card on a different computer. It's easy to do, just follow these steps exactly:

1. Access the camera's memory card on a computer and open the card's root folder. In there is stored a generic text file backup copy of the camera's settings (called SYNC_PARA.CFG.BAK) which can be opened and edited with a plain ASCII text editor, like the Windows Notepad program. The file will look similar to this:
Code:
"transID":Maxi3UI
updateDateTime=[0];          #0~1: No/Yes, update Date & Time
rtcDate=[20211013];          #RTC date: 2017~2035, date format: YYYYMMDD
rtcTime=[01:57:22];          #RTC time: 24-hour clock, time format: hh:mm:ss

#Video1 Setting
VideoSize=[0];               #0~9: 4K30fps/1520P30fps/1520P60fps/1440P30fps/1440P60fps/1080P30fps/1080P60fps/1080P120fps/720P120fps/720P240fps
VideoMediaFormat=[1];        #0~1: MOV/MP4
VideoRotate=[0];             #0~2: Off/On/Auto
VideoQuality=[0];            #0~2: High/Middle/Low
VideoRecVol=[3];             #0~4: Off/25%/50%/75%/100%
VideoRecLED=[1];             #0~1: Off/On
VideoAEMode=[4];             #0~8: -2.0/-1.5/-1.0/-0.5/0/+0.5/+1.0/+1.5/+2.0
VideoEis=[0];                #0~1: Off/On
VideoFileLength=[0];         #0~4: Max/1min/3min/5min/10min
VideoLoopRecord=[0];         #0~1: Off/On (Note: 10min and Max not supported for Loop Recording)
VideoTimeLapseInterval=[0];  #0~6: OFF/1sec/3sec/5sec/10sec/30sec/1min
VideoSlowMotion=[0]          #0~1: Off/On
VideoFOV=[0];                #0~2: Wide/Medium/Narrow
VideoWDR=[1];                #0~1: Off/On
VideoAutoLowlight=[1];       #0~1: Off/On
VideoStampMode=[2];          #0~2: Off/Date/Date&Time
MotionDetect=[0];            #0~1: Off/On
MotionDetectTimeout=[2];     #0~3: 5sec/15sec/30sec/60sec
MotionDetectSensitivity=[1]; #0~2: High/Middle/Low

#Video2 Setting
VideoSize=[7];               #0~9: 4K30fps/1520P30fps/1520P60fps/1440P30fps/1440P60fps/1080P30fps/1080P60fps/1080P120fps/720P120fps/720P240fps
VideoMediaFormat=[1];        #0~1: MOV/MP4
VideoRotate=[0];             #0~2: Off/On/Auto
VideoQuality=[0];            #0~2: High/Middle/Low
VideoRecVol=[3];             #0~4: Off/25%/50%/75%/100%
VideoRecLED=[1];             #0~1: Off/On
VideoAEMode=[4];             #0~8: -2.0/-1.5/-1.0/-0.5/0/+0.5/+1.0/+1.5/+2.0
VideoEis=[0];                #0~1: Off/On
VideoFileLength=[0];         #0~4: Max/1min/3min/5min/10min
VideoLoopRecord=[0];         #0~1: Off/On (Note: 10min and Max not supported for Loop Recording)
VideoTimeLapseInterval=[0];  #0~6: OFF/1sec/3sec/5sec/10sec/30sec/1min
VideoSlowMotion=[0]          #0~1: Off/On
VideoFOV=[0];                #0~2: Wide/Medium/Narrow
VideoWDR=[1];                #0~1: Off/On
VideoAutoLowlight=[1];       #0~1: Off/On
VideoStampMode=[2];          #0~2: Off/Date/Date&Time
MotionDetect=[0];            #0~1: Off/On
MotionDetectTimeout=[2];     #0~3: 5sec/15sec/30sec/60sec
MotionDetectSensitivity=[1]; #0~2: High/Middle/Low

#Photo Setting
PhotoSize=[2];               #0~4: 14MP(4320x3240)/10MP(4320x2430)/8MP(3840x2160)/5MP(2592x1944)/2MP(1920x1080)
PhotoRotate=[0];             #0~2: Off/On/Auto
PhotoAEMode=[4];             #0~8: -2.0/-1.5/-1.0/-0.5/0/+0.5/+1.0/+1.5/+2.0
PhotoTimeLapseInterval=[0];  #0~5: OFF/3sec/5sec/10sec/30sec/1min
PhotoBurstMode=[0];          #0~4: OFF/3shots/7shots/15shots/30shots
PhotoDelayTimer=[0];         #0~2: OFF/Delay 2s/Delay 10s
PhotoLongExposure=[0];       #0~6: OFF/1sec/2sec/5sec/8sec/30sec/1min
PhotoStampMode=[2];          #0~2: Off/Date/Date&Time

#System Setting
TVOutMode=[0];               #0~1: NTSC/PAL
GSensorSense=[0];            #0~3: Off/Low/Middle/High
LightFreq=[1];               #0~1: 50HZ/60HZ
BeepSound=[1];               #0~1: Off/On
BeepVolume=[2];              #0~2: Low/Middle/High
AEMetering=[1];              #0~2: Center/Multi/Spot
WBMode=[0];                  #0~5: Auto/Daylight/Shade/Tungsten Light/White Fluorescent/Underwater
EffectMode=[0];              #0~5: Normal/BW/Natural/Negative/Warm/Brightness Contrast
Sharpness=[4];               #0~8: -4/-3/-2/-1/0/1/2/3/4
Saturation=[3];              #0~8: -4/-3/-2/-1/0/1/2/3/4
Contrast=[4];                #0~8: -4/-3/-2/-1/0/1/2/3/4
LDC=[1];                     #0~1: Off/On
DateStyle=[1];               #0~2: YYYYMMDD/MMDDYYYY/DDMMYYYY
AutoPowerOff=[2];            #0~2: Off/1min/30sec
PowerOnRecord=[0];           #0~1: No/Yes
PowerOnRecordAdapter=[0];    #0~1: No/Yes
Language=[0];                #0~2: English/Simplified Chinese/Traditional Chinese
ResetWiFiSetting=[0];        #0~1: No/Yes
FormatTF=[0];                #0~1: No/Yes
FactoryReset=[0];            #0~1: No/Yes, Priority Highest

Firmware Version: 2.0.5.3
2. To change a setting, simply replace the number "key" in the square brackets [ ] after the equal sign (=) in the config file with your desired change key number. NOTE: To change the month/day/year display order sequence to match your local standard, keep the same display sequence shown in your config file. Do not change the display order sequence there. The "DateStyle=" parameter in the System Settings list is used to change the display format.

3. Save the file back to the memory card, and then rename the config file by deleting ".BAK" suffix in the name, leaving the file named "SYNC_PARA<CFG".

4. Finally, with the camera turned off and the memory card and it's revised config file in the card root folder, simply turn the camera, turn the camera on and you're done! The camera will detect the renamed config file and load in the parameters when it turns on, and will write a new ".BAK" file to the memory card confirming the settings have been loaded (check to be sure this file is there). Leave this file on your card for future reference or changes. The file is rewritten every time the camera boots, so there's nothing gained by deleting it.

Alternate Manual User Configuration Setting Procedure Via Camera's Video Out OSD

The M4K also has an On Screen Display (OSD) mode that can display/change its configuration settings via the camera buttons, but it's only available when the camera is connected to a TV, FPV display, or other system that accepts old NTSC or PAL analog video input. This method is a bit unwieldy navigating through the various menus to toggle settings, but there are times when this might be the only method available. You must have the M4K USB-C Video Out cable with phono plugs to feed the OSD video to your display hardware. More details on this are in Isoprop's User Guide linked above.

Firmware

Firmware updates will contain bug fixes, new or improved features, or both. You are advised to always update the firmware if you want your M4K to give you all it can. You are strongly advised to ALWAYS use the mSetup GUI tool for all camera firmware changes (see above info on mSetup). The GUI will determine if your camera firmware is out of date, download the latest firmware if you agree, and install it for you, taking all the potential for user error out of it.

The firmware development and refinement is a continuing process, and the most recent OFFICIALLY RELEASED versions will be kept attached to this post as downloadable zip files. Any problems found with the Released Firmware should be reported to me via PM.

The most up-to-date firmware is available for manual download at the bottom of this page.

Optional Manual Firmware Update Procedure

The following procedure is for manually updating your camera firmware. This process may be the only way to load in new FW if you cannot use the Windows mSetup GUI configuration tool (see above), or your camera cannot connect to your PC via a USB data connection.
ALERT:
  • READ THE UPDATING INSTRUCTIONS FULLY BEFORE STARTING
  • DO NOT BEGIN UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND EACH STEP
  • DO NOT SKIP ANY STEPS

1. Download the firmware .zip archive file and un-zip it. Inside will be the FW file and normally a text file that gives the changes made to the FW. Note: The firmware will ALWAYS have the same name... MAXI4K.BRN, which is necessary for the camera to identify it as firmware to be installed. DO NOT RENAME THIS FILE! If you keep copies of FW you download, store it in a separate folder named for the version of the FW inside. I keep obsolete FW files, so if you need one for some reason, PM me with your email address.

2. Copy the FW file (MAXI4K.BRN) to the memory card's root folder (the one that opens when the camera connects as a removable drive). This can be done with the card in the camera connected to the computer as a Removable Drive, or externally in a card reader. But do NOT rename the file. If you do, the camera will not install it!

3. Disconnect the camera and make sure it is off..

4. Insert the flash card containing the new firmware file into the camera[/B] (if not already in the camera).

5. Connect the camera to a reliable external USB power source (generic 2-wire power or PC USB data source). Note this is now a requirement in lieu of powering the camera with only the internal battery to assure fail safe FW uploads. The camera will automatically boot with the Yellow LED ON (and maybe also the Green LED if the battery is charging), and the FW will begin to load as confirmed by blinking of the rear RED LED. DO NOT PRESS ANY CAMERA BUTTONS OR MOVE THE USB CABLE AROUND WHILE THE INSTALLATION IS IN PROGRESS which takes about 90 sec. to complete.

6. When the FW installation is complete, the Yellow and rear Red LEDs will turn off, indicating the FW file has been loaded (the Greed LED may stay lit if the battery is still charging). Check the memory card to see that the FW file has been automatically deleted at the end of the upload process.

7. You're done! The camera should now boot up normally, but ALL the settings will have been restored to camera defaults following FW installation! You'll need to restore your preferred settings via mSetup, mTool, or by manual editing method of the SYNC_PARA.CFG.BAK file that should also be on the card.

Firmware Download Site

Files can be downloaded and installed manually or by using Isoprop's latest mSetup.exe Windows configuration utility (see above InfoPost #6 for link).
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Sep 09, 2021, 09:56 AM
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mSetup - the Mobius ActionCam setup utility


This is the original GUI for all the Mobius line of cameras which I created in co-operation with the developer and Tom. Click HERE to download.

The program is a native Windows application specifically written for the Windows operating system (XP and above) and does not require any 3rd party runtime system, for example Java or .NET, to be installed. The simple and extremely user-friendly program is fully plug-and-play. An integrated User Manual for the Mobius 4K will be added shortly.

The software is also compatible with all plug-and-play versions of the Mobius' little sister, the very popular #16 as well as it's successor, the #32.

The software will also identify all unknown USB cameras and devices with a capacity of 1TB or less. So, if the GUI doesn't recognize your camera, you don't have a #16/#32 or one of the Mobius ActionCam models!

You can take a peek at the software even if you don't yet have the camera. You can click on all the buttons, but they will be greyed-out until a supported camera is connected.

Remember that you can resize the dialog by dragging the gripper at the bottom right corner if you prefer a smaller image. The dialog fonts will automatically be resized to fit.

The latest GUI software configuration tool may be downloaded by clicking on the link above or on one of the images below.

I strongly recommend that you enable automatic program and firmware updates so you always benefit from the latest available tools. This is specially worthwhile during the first few weeks after the initial release.

Here are some screenshots of the GUI (Graphical User Interface)










... you can set your own parameters and download new versions and format the camera's card


...and of course you can set your own colors for the program


... to date mSetup has been translated into 14 different languages, here for example Hindi
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Sep 10, 2021, 03:18 PM
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The only feature not shown on the Ebay listing is whether it has short range WiFi for camera control and viewing. Will that be found in the 4K model? Also, I like to remotely mount the lens module. Will the Maxi (not 4K) extension cables fit?
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The only feature not shown on the Ebay listing is whether it has short range WiFi for camera control and viewing. Will that be found in the 4K model? Also, I like to remotely mount the lens module. Will the Maxi (not 4K) extension cables fit?
The M4K (as we've called it during development testing) has WiFi capability built in, but it's not been included in the release FW version. However, there are generic "icatch" APPs for Android and iOS phones that provide partial functionality.
The lens cables differ greatly between the Maxi and the M4K. The M4k cable is about 2mm wider, but has about twice as many traces in it's ribbon cable (see attached images). Even if the same size cable and plugs were used, the M4K data rate can be about twice that of the Maxi, so for reliable signal strength I'd guess the length of the cable would need to be shortened by quite a bit.
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Sep 12, 2021, 08:10 AM
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Dear Sir, need a few answers, please advise.

1)Is the casing still coated with rubber?

2)Details on 2.7k resolution is not mention on https://www.ebay.com/itm/185040073635

3)Can the m12 lens be removed and use our own?

4)How is its low light performance?

5)Can compare the dynamic range with a Mobius maxi side by side?

6)When flashing its firmware, if there's interruption, will the camera be bricked?

Thanks.
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<edit> My responses are in Blue, but I've a completely revised the question responses with new info from the developer in Green below) </edit>

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Dear Sir, need a few answers, please advise.

1)Is the casing still coated with rubber?
No, the release cases do NOT have the coating.

2)Details on 2.7k resolution is not mention on https://www.ebay.com/itm/185040073635
Updated FW is being installed in all new cameras right now. The new resolutions added are 2.7K (2704 x 1520) 30fps/60fps, and 2.5k (2560 x 1440) 60fps

3)Can the m12 lens be removed and use our own?
If you use the existing lens module and your lens has a standard M12 lens thread, then you can certainly screw it in and test it. But your lens must have a sufficient AOV to extend well beyond the CMOS active pixel area, and be able to be focused and held securely in the camera's lens module barrel threaded length.
We will offer a faster lens option (f/1.5), and more accessories like lens extension cables soon. .

4)How is its low light performance?
Maxi 4K should perform better in low light.

5)Can compare the dynamic range with a Mobius maxi side by side?
Maxi 4K has wider dynamic range than Mobius 1 and original Mobius Maxi. I think we can do some sort of comparison.

6)When flashing its firmware, if there's interruption, will the camera be bricked?
It would fail if power lost during the process. But we have a much easier way to flash firmware by ISP, similar as original Maxi backdoor firmware updating, but very simple and working on windows 10. Will advise more details soon, we are still working on the instructions to be included in full User Guide.

Thanks.
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The only feature not shown on the Ebay listing is whether it has short range WiFi for camera control and viewing. Will that be found in the 4K model? Also, I like to remotely mount the lens module. Will the Maxi (not 4K) extension cables fit?
This is an update to my prior post of a couple days ago.

The M4K Does have WiFi capability built in... activated by a long (5 sec. press) of the mode button after booting the camera. What is missing, though are APPS dedicated to full functionality of the camera.

That said, there are "generic" Android and iPhone APPs from the the DSP chip manufacturer (icatch) that can at least provide some of the needed functionality. I use an Android phone and can confirm the latest APP for those phones (iSmart DV2 v1.0.4) works pretty well on my older LG phone. But all phones do not function the same, so I can't guarantee a different Android phone works as mine does. You could get unexpected changes if you use these for updating your camera functions! I can toggle and capture both live video (with audio) and photos on my camera SD card, as well as D/L and play them on my phone. I can set maybe a half dozen different settings on my camera (e.g. video resolution/frame rate options, camera card formatting, etc.) via the APP. I had a few drops of the WiFi connection until I turned off WiFi Data capability (blocking the internet) on my phone, set the phone to Airplane Mode (with local WIFI turned on), and turned OFF my camera auto shut down delay (when waiting in standby mode) so it doesn't shut off thinking nothing is going on. I'm not sure if all of those things were necessary for a stable WiFi link, but it's working reliably for now, so take it as something to check if you try this. I have not been able to test the iPhone APP.

Regarding a lens extension cable, existing cables will definitely not fit the M4K, but the developer has said they will be offering extension cables for the M4K soon.... length unknown.
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Sep 16, 2021, 02:53 PM
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Thanks so much for doing a bit of digging. I'll need to order a Maxi 4K and give it a try. I'm glad to hear that some form of extension cable will eventually be available. I suspect, like you, that the increasing data rate will decrease the maximum cable length. But, even a 50mm cable will allow some mounting flexibility.

The generic app probably won't let me start recordings remotely, as that is device-specific. I can hope the developer eventually has time to release an update to the Mobius Cam app for the 4K. This is early in the product release, and added features will likely come.
Sep 19, 2021, 06:58 PM
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Sooo good to see this camera released!

1. Does it have webcam mode? If yes, what are the resolution and fps modes?
Would love to see 4k 30 fps webcam mode in high quality bitrate or at least 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 at 60 fps webcam mode.
60 fps would be awesome to see in webcam modes.

2. What is the bitrate of each camera mode and what are the modes?

3. what fps per each camera mode?

4. Is the new lens better than for Bobius Maxi?
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Sooo good to see this camera released!

1. Does it have webcam mode? If yes, what are the resolution and fps modes?

Would love to see 4k 30 fps webcam mode in high quality bitrate or at least 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 at 60 fps webcam mode.
60 fps would be awesome to see in webcam modes.
Yes, it does have nice web cam functionality. The camera can output 4K-30 video and below in webcam mode. But your webcam software will determine what it can display. I use the W10 "Camera" app, which seems to be the most accommodating..

2. What is the bitrate of each camera mode and what are the modes?
3. what fps per each camera mode? The M4K video resolutions and frame rates are 4K-30 fps, 2.7k (2704x1520)-30/60fps, 1440P-30/60 fps, 1080P-30/60/120fps, and 720P-120/240fps. The max average data rate depends on your "Quality" setting in the camera config as well as the speed of your SD card (U3 or better SD cards are needed for the highest data rates). They start at about 60Mbps for the 4K-30fps and trend down from there through the lesser resolutions and frame rates..

4. Is the new lens better than for Bobius Maxi?The lens appears to be the same Lens D used by the original Maxi camera just from visible observation of the physical lens. I think the lens quality is up to the task as far as resolution and color IQ. The only issue is some "ghost flare" artifacts when shooting "near" the sun, i.e. the sun is just slightly out of view in the captured video frame.
A faster lens option is to be offered per the developer.
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These specs look seriously good. Tom, thank you for detailed information.

1. Does the webcam mode have 60 fps? Could you check if 60fps in webcam mode works for 2704x1520 or similar resolution?
Anything above above 1080p as 60 fps?

2. Is USB-C only USB 2.0, not 3.0 or 3.1 or 3.2?

3. How about the heat? Can you measure how hot the camera becomes when recording max resolutions like 4k 30 fps or 2.7k 60 fps?

4. I understand these 4k and 2.7k 60 fps resolutions are not interpolated, but native to the chip/sensor?

5. What sensor the camera has? OV4689?

6. Did you compare this camera output to the mobius maxi model? Can you spot the difference in sharpness and details?

Cheers
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