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Old Apr 22, 2002, 06:02 PM
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Flew my new Playboy Old Timer WOW!


Hi all!,

I saw the new Hobby Lobby Playboy Old Timer ARF
a little while ago and as many of you know I'm an Old Timer
fanatic!

Had to have one....
Well I got it and it was so easy I got to fly it the last couple of
days....
Wow! flys with the best of my squadron of OT's.
This is like my 5th Playboy but sure was a lot more fun
and faster to build....And it flys with the best of them.

This is the Pylon version and flys just as well as any of
them I scratched built so far.

Here's a picture.

Jay
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Old Apr 22, 2002, 06:09 PM
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Better picture I stole off HL web


Here it is from the back side.
Here the vitals too:
60” wingspan, 33” long, 457sq.in. wing area, 28oz. flying weight

Mine came in a little bit heavier but I'm carrying 8 cells
and running a 480BB. Climbs out really well and
thermals nicley as any OT should.

The only substitue for power is a lot more power!

I also feel that it fly's better than any of my Miss 2's but
I'm prejudiced to Playboys rather than the Miss America
of which the Miss 2 is a derivation.


Jay
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Old Apr 22, 2002, 06:46 PM
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nice, glad to hear, I've been eyeing that one and wondered if any one had picked one up. thoses rib look very thin though. Scott
Old Apr 22, 2002, 06:48 PM
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Ribbing


The ribs are neat.....they are light Ply with lightening holes.

Tuff in my book!

Jay
Old Apr 22, 2002, 09:21 PM
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Sweet


Nice looking Plane!

Thanks for positng those pics.


HH
Old Apr 23, 2002, 10:32 AM
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Playboy of the inside


Here's a picture of the inside of the Playboy and the
servos, receiver and battery compartment.
Plus my modification at the front of the hatch area to hold
the hatch in.
Old Apr 23, 2002, 12:31 PM
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Oh sod. Another model I just have to have.
Old Apr 23, 2002, 01:42 PM
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Dear Jay,
Great looking Playboy by Joe Elgin. Keep'm flying!
Yours,
Dick Huang
Old Apr 23, 2002, 02:01 PM
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I have to agree....


This plane is great, and a lot of fun to fly lazily around the sky. I can see that you added an air scoop as well to the front, I had to do that to mine b/c my motor and speed control were getting pretty hot in there.

I am running mine on a Speed 400, 3:1 BB GB, and 7 or 8 600AE cells. ROG's in about 8 feet with the 8 cell pack, and flies great near 1/3 throttle.

At first I thought construction was light, but when you look at it, it is mostly light-ply, all laser cut to lighten up as much as possible. I really like the pushrods through the fuselage, nice work there.

Here is a pic of mine, more can be found in the Gallery as well.
Old Apr 23, 2002, 02:16 PM
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Robert and Jay

The Playboy pics are really nice. Can you tell me what the weight is? Servos? Battery pack? Motor (I assume 400)? I am just finishing my Miss 2 and am worried that the weight is going to be 27-28 ounces. Is that too heavy for a 400 with 2.33:1 gearbox?

Pat
Old Apr 23, 2002, 02:23 PM
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Pat, my setup is,....


Wingspan: 60"
Wing Area: 457 sq. in.
Length: 33 in.
Finished Weight: 24 oz
Wing Loading: 7.5 oz / sq. ft.
Motor: Speed 400 6V with 3:1 BB Gearbox
Prop: APC 10x7 Slo-Fly
Battery: 7 or 8 Cells 600AE
Radio: Hitec Focus III FM,(2) HS-55 Micro Servos, JETI 140 Compact BEC (this attaches to back of Speed 400)

Can't say enough how enjoyable this plane is to fly. Always fun to sit in a lawn chair for 20-30 minutes while coasting around.
Old Apr 23, 2002, 03:16 PM
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Pat,

My Playboy is:Here the vitals too:
60” wingspan, 33” long, 457sq.in. wing area, 28oz. flying weight

I am using Maxx MX50 servos,
Mine is a lot different in the motor department.

I'm using a Speed 480 BB into a new MPJet 4:1 gearbox
Pulling a 11X7 APC E prop....that is the WOW in my thread...
It has a lot of power and great climb...Not quite a
brushless but a lot of zip anyhow.
I'm also using 8 X 1100mah nicads and a 18 amp ESC.

Yes I did add a scoop for the air right under the motor to
get some more air on the brush area.
The new MPJet gearbox has a cooling pickup in the
front to allow air into the motor too.

Jay
Old Apr 23, 2002, 04:05 PM
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I was just watching the HL videos on the PB today! I was considering it as a replacement for my Miss2. From what I'm hearing, it is a worthwhile upgrade and not redundant. The landing gear looks better than the stock Miss2's. Does it land slower? How is the wind tolerance? Is there a hatch at the bottom for the batt? Will I hate the S400 or should I try to install my Velkom 2020/27 3:1 GB/ 11X7 prop? (I have a new S4006V with a 3:1metal GB available).
Sorry about all the questions....Here's my current config in the Miss2
Old Apr 23, 2002, 05:34 PM
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Bill,

The landing gear is 1/8 better quality music wire, so I find
it a lot more substantial so far. I haven't bent it get and the
wheels are even better. The gear is bolted to the front bulkhead
very nicely.

In my third picture you see the hatch at the bottom of the
fuse, so accessing batteries is much better and it's not
tail heavy, so you don't fight the CG problem of the Miss2
Over all it is made much better.

It slows down as well as the Miss 2 and flies exactly as
a classic Playboy should.
This thing is as close to a vintage and accurate Playboy Old Timer
as I have seen on any of the ARF's.
I have flown it in winds to around 15mph and a bit higher on the gusts and no problems.....it is very well behaved.
Remember the history of this model was a very very successful
free flight designed by Joe Elgin, who just passed away a couple of months ago...he was one of the best designers.

But the real sight to see is flying it above you and peacefully
taking a nice slow and easy pass and watching the sun glint
through the transparent covering and the shadow the ribs
cast on the grass or as it breaks up the sun rays....

Oh! But an Ode to an Old Timer flying so stately!

Hey it brings out the nostalgia in me....
Old Timers and Electric flight a perfect match.

Jay
Old Apr 24, 2002, 07:11 AM
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While we are talking old timers, has anyone flown the Cermark New Timer? It looks like a nice plane.

Peter


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