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The downside is Hubsan will probably charge quite a bit more than the going rate for storage. I'm guessing the jump from 64G to 128G will be $100, with 128G only being enough storage for about 1 hour of video at max settings. Hopefully there is also a micro SD option that just didn't make it into the spec sheet since most of us have some extra SD cards lying around, although maybe not fast enough for 200Mbps video.
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Thanks for the update and great insights! Sorry I've missed the input of others as I've just begun reading your responses to the spec drop above. This drone is quite the engineering feat that resets the bar for sub-250g camera drones. I didn't think we'd see anything like this for many years to come, particularly if we waited for DJI to take the lead within the constraints of their marketing strategy -- devised to avoid cannibalization of their multi-tier consumer market which leverages price for features. If Hubsan delivers with sufficient refinement in the first generation at under $500 USD, this has the potential to make Hubsan a household name, while no doubt changing the trajectory of all sub-250g camera drones. I'm not even sure I believe these specs are possible within that weight limit in a sufficiently robust pocket drone. Enough speculation and troll feed. 64G/128G eMMC Memory: Great catch and insights on the eMMC (embedded MultiMediaCard). This will no doubt reduce customer support headaches as you've mentioned, but 200Mbit/s sequential writes shouldn't be a problem either way in light of inexpensive U3 MicroSD cards. Not to mention a new generation of XC II bus cards. eMMC is typically rated at 400MByte/s for sequential writes while U3 XC I SDXC is rated at just 39MByte/s minimum. Now keep in mind that 200Mbit/s is only 25MByte/s. Most of my U3 cards benchmark between 47 and 85 MByte/s for sequential writes. Obviously real-world scenarios differ from specs and benchmarks so perhaps there's a true necessity for eMMC in this drone. After all, the Fimi X8 SE series writes two video files simultaneously to the SD card, perhaps to provide proxy files for editing...? This spec could be setting up a price difference for a 64GB model versus a 128GB model (aka Apple). But lets hope there's an SD card option because if internal memory is the sole option, then this will prove clunky.
A variable aperture would add complexity and perhaps significant weight. But the f/1.85 aperture combined with a 1/1.3" sensor should be superb in low-light. And the 48MP sensor indicates Quad Bayer filter traits which extends the flexibility and overall performance considerably (as I outlined in a previous post above, and as we've seen from the Air 2 and EVO 2 8K). The only bummer with this camera is the limited framerate at 4K (4K@30). That's likely a thermal limit based on the gimbal size, but I sure wish it were 4K@60. Let's hope 4K@30 translates to 2.7K@60 and 1080p@120 minimum. In any case, this camera threatens to drive consumer expectations and end the era of dumbed-down camera-drones in the sub-250g space. Dual Antenna: This showed up in a drone category as opposed to a remote-control spec. Just like O3 (Ocusync 3.0) adopted 4 drone antennas, this step-up to dual drone antennas will no doubt improve FPV reliability and perhaps control during cinematography that includes significant yawing or rotation. That's why I've often said that range tests are an inadequate indicator of the cinematic utility of a drone. And that's why our friend aiolosimport of the Fimi X8 SE thread has opted-out of long range testing while replacing it with slow 360 yaw turns at various altitudes out to maybe 2km max. Obstacle Avoidance (OA): Like the camera, this really steps-up the game among sub-250g camera drones. The forward, back and down sensors stop short of full 360 OA, but this is a welcome feature that's critical with some Tracking duties. Li-ion battery chemistry: The 16m/s top speed at 40 degrees tilt combined with 40 minute flight time from a mere 2S battery pak is super impressive. These sub-250g drones are perhaps the perfect match for Li-ion with it's limited but adequate 8C discharge rate and superior energy density. But you'll still have to choose between Sports mode or flight time as with any drone. But based on the power-curve of Li-ion, it's not likely to maintain grade 5 wind resistance below 20% battery levels (beyond ~30 minutes flight time). No big deal, but a significant point of education and consideration in practice. Tracking, Headless, Waypoints and Ray flight modes: Actually I don't know what Hubsan means by 'Ray flight' but I hope it's a Spotflight function leveraging tracking capabilities...? I don't see any Quick Shot options but the listed Hubsan flight modes are arguably more useful if you fly more often than once a month. I would personally miss a more steadfast GPS-based Orbit and Spiral, but the listed modes are a huge step-up from my DJI Mini 2. And I think some level of Sports Tracking is the minimum consumer expectation for any pocket drone. Precision Landing: Last but certainly least, are questions surrounding this gee-wiz feature. Will Hubsan utilize the optical flow camera or main camera for landing pad identification? The latter risks camera damage in some cases and hasn't proven reliable with previous Hubsan drones. |
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You forgot the most important item from the spec list.
Colour = Gary It doesn't get any better than this :-) I'm happy to see tracking and Waypoints. DJI will probably have to step up and not leave things like this to Litchi if they are found working well in what the trolls will call Toy Drones. |
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Reading the user reviews of the X-Hubsan2 app doesn't fill me with confidence, no matter how impressive the drone's specs are.
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This pricing looks familiar from the Fimi Mini launch ;-)
https://www.banggood.com/Hubsan-ZINO...p-1841971.html At least it's not geekbuying or whatever was the disaster from the previous Hubsan launch. Looks like it has 'fast transfer' feature. Maybe to move video from drone to your phone? No sign of a controller yet... Maybe they haven't gotten around to |
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At that price, it would have to live up to the specs! It would have to comprehensively outperform the Mini2 to get any market share. The thing I'm most doubtful of is the claimed 40 minute flight time with a 2400mAh LiLon battery, I just can't see how they would get 30% more endurance than similar drones. There are no advances in props, motors and ESC's that could explain it, and the battery is more or less the same capacity and weight as the ones used in those other drones.
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