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Apr 20, 2002, 11:43 AM
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What is a REALLY good NiCd AND NiMH charger


Thanks guys, I went ahead and bought the Dymond Quick Charger. I appreciate the help

Nick
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Apr 20, 2002, 07:32 PM
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Hey Nick,
Thanks for the post. I'm moving it to modeling science for a lot more exposure. I have a Dymond Super Smart charger. From Dymond, thought I had a link for you but I can't find it. It CANNOT do all you are asking.
Good Luck,
Apr 20, 2002, 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by Don Sims
I have a Dymond Super Smart charger. From Dymond, It CANNOT do all you are asking.
Almost though.
Here's the link.
http://www.rc-dymond.com/Chargers/20156SuperSmart.htm

And Dave Lilly's review of the charger.
http://www.ezonemag.com/articles/200...d/dymond.shtml

(Just ordered mine this AM )
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EDITED: oops, I goofed. The above links are for the new 'Turbo'
Last edited by William A; Apr 20, 2002 at 08:51 PM.
Apr 20, 2002, 08:23 PM
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I like the Dymond Smart Charger. Mine is in a plastic case with 2 computer fans (1 blows air under/around the charger, 1 blows air into the battery area) and has a cig lighter plug on the end - works in the car, my semi-portable field battery and home power supply.

To plug into A/C at home, you need a 12v (13.8V) power supply. Many are available - search Ezone on this for Pyramiid (?). I use a mod'ed PC power supply for this.

Battery cycler? - Sort of. Hook up and hit Discharge - this will discharge than charge ONCE. You need to hit it again for the next cycle. Works on AUTO mode with NiCD for fast discharge/charge. Or program a memory with slow charge rate and use that in manual mode for overnight operation. I use that for forming new packs and periodically cycling old packs.

NiMH is the same but use ONLY manual mode, not AUTO.

Actually, this makes it sound hard but it really isn't. Much simpler than programming my VCR.

You may be able to find them in your LHS or online. Dymond has a new improved model - the Turbo. Review for that is here on Ezone somewhere.
Apr 20, 2002, 08:48 PM
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charge all ?


look at the new schulze 330 charger
it charges any or all of the following:
nicad
lead-acid
gel cel
NiMH
two types of Lithium packs
cycles up to 3 charge/discharge
operates form 12 V battery or power supply
fully automatic
about 160 bucks
http://www.rc-direct.com
peter
Apr 20, 2002, 10:41 PM
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There is also the Ginzel, won't work on AC but does the rest. Also with the slow-fly option will charge all the way down to 2mA. Will also charge Li-ion. downside=$$$

Keith
Apr 20, 2002, 11:29 PM
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Check out the Orbit Charger also

http://www.orbitronic.de/model/e_produkte.html

It will do anything you want including lithiums, nimh, lead, discharge, cycle, reflex and more!!

I have a Pro and a V6 and love them!
Apr 22, 2002, 03:38 PM
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Hey Neighbor


I have a HiTec 320. Only does 4-8 cells and is limited to a low of .9 amp charge rate. To high for little stuff.

I also bought an Astro 110D. It is going back for repairs to the adjustment knob.

Some of the guys have had trouble with the Dymond Turbo. It may be new production blues, but many others have had no problems and love them.

I think the Orbit, Ginzel, and Schultz are the best choices, but as some one mentioned $$$.$$ is their biggest problem.
Apr 22, 2002, 06:20 PM
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Great charger


Dymond super charger is the cream
It does not do (all) the things you asked for
but,
for $100
There is no better on the market.

Best Nmh charger I have seen yet.
Apr 22, 2002, 10:44 PM
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I've have two FMA Supernova chargers for almost two years now. I believe they are similar to the Dymond mentioned, and Hobby Lobby's Simprop charger. I too use the chargers for NIMH so the proper cutoff is critical, and the Supernova never damaged a pack, after charging hundreds of packs.
Apr 26, 2002, 01:41 AM
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I agree that the FMA SuperNova / Simprop / Dymond Super Smart is an excellent charger and probably the best value in chargers on the market today. Note that the Dymond Super Smart has been replaced with the Super Turbo, a very similar charger. I hear it has a few new features (like optional temp probe), but lost a feature (ability to manually change charge rate once charge has started). I just ordered one for a friend and will post results when a get the chance to use it a bit.

If you don't mind spending a bit extra, you should be very happy with an Orbit v6 or Ginzel Spectra for around $200. They both do lithium cells, if you ever have the need.

Note nearly all chargers, including those listed above, require an additional power supply to run from house current A/C.

Here's an exception: the Duratrax Intellipeak Digital Pulse charger comes with a pretty slick detachable 7 amp switching power supply that's only a bit bigger than a typical wall-wart (it also works with 12V DC). It does NiCd/NiMH from 500mA to 6.5A, 4 to 8 cells. Not the best charger for e-flight, as many ships use more than 8 cells, and 500mA is too high for quite a few park or slow flyers. The little power supply is so handy, I often use it with other chargers, but had to make a break-out box with the odd Molex it uses. At around $100, it's still a great unit for what it is. Keep in mind, it's most of what you asked for, but not necessarily all you'll need. If you use small cells, like the popular 300mAh NiMH or large cell-count packs, this charger is not for you.

As requested...
https://www.fmadirect.com/html/2000_....htm?item=1045
http://www.rc-dymond.com/Chargers/20156SuperSmart.htm
http://www.magtechinc.net/ginzel.htm
http://home.t-online.de/home/ruedige...el/spec_gb.htm
http://orbitronic.de/model/e_v40_1.html
http://www.eflightpacks.com/ (click on Products, then Battery Chargers)
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...1&I=LXUF46&P=7


-chris
Apr 26, 2002, 02:43 AM
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I have a Sirius Charge Pro, and FMA SuperNova, and an Orbit Microlader. All three require an external AC/DC power supply which isn't included with them. My opinion of their capabilities goes like this...

Sirius: Great Radio and small battery charger. Can't do over 8 cells and anything above 800mAh takes a long time. Top notch for any battery it can handle. I consider this thing battery therapy. Very nice and stupid simple to use. For slopers this is the best charger period.

FMA SuperNova: Resoundingly *meh*. Decent field charger. Doesn't really do formatting and can't charge below 100mAh. Can't auto charge NiMH. I don't get the capacity out of my batteries that my Sirius or my Orbit give me. For the money a Dymond Super Turbo is a better buy.

Orbit Microlader: Excellent. Germans really know their chargers. (What's up with that?) Does everything you describe. Interface requires a few more keystrokes but it's not difficult. Batteries get a good charge. Lithium charging feature is for the now defunct (I believe) Tadrium batteries so it's not particularly useful. Interfaces with your PC but it's only for graphing the charging process.

Hope this helps,
Mario
Apr 26, 2002, 03:23 AM
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Litco Alpha 4


In my opinion, the Litco Alpha 4 is one helluva charger. I have two of them. How would you like to independently peak charge or cycle 4 separate NiMH or NiCad packs at one time on 4 separate computer controlled programs from one charger from your car (DC) or house (AC)?

From the Litco site:

Litco Alpha 4 is a highly advanced system that includes 10 separate battery maintenance devices. It replaces and obsoletes practically all C/10 chargers, fast chargers, variable chargers, CVC's, cyclers and ESV meters currently on the market. It handles up to 4 batteries simultaneously with any of the 10 built in devices from either 120VAC line or 12VDC source in the field or automobile. The Alpha 4 handles 1 to 12 cell nicad or NiMH batteries and 2 to 18 Volt wet and gel cells. It can handle up to 12 receiver packs or 4 complete RC systems on the trickle only device.

Info: http://home.att.net/~LitcoSys/

No, I don't get a kickback

-ZZ
Apr 26, 2002, 07:57 AM
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Good call on the Litco, ZZ. I had forgotten about this one. I don't have any personal experience with the Alpha4, but have always been curious; it looks pretty tasty. I've never actually seen any pictures of the charger itself (other than the keypad). Got any pix?

-chris
Apr 26, 2002, 12:36 PM
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Litco Alpha 4


Okay, in the interest of causing salivation, here's my Litco Alpha 4 hooked up to the included AC to DC converter running off my household current simultaneously running several different independent charging programs (all computer controlled, all peak detecting). The batteries in question are:

1. A 1500 mah 8 cell NiMH pack in my transmitter.
2. A 1700 mah 8 cell NiCad (A Zagi 400X flight pack)
3. A 1650 mah 4 cell NiMH pack in my beat up Zagi.
4. A single 650 mah NiMH AAA cell.

I have two of these chargers on my charging bench and it charges everything I have. I just come home from the field (I use a couple of SuperNovas at the field), hook all my batteries up to the Litcos, and the next morning, everything is topped perfectly and ready to fly.

Q: Do all the packs have to be different?
A: No, you can charge 4 identical packs. I'm showing the charger's versatility by charging 4 different kinds of packs.

Q: Can I charge all the packs using the same program?
A: Yep, and it will maintain 4 separate runs in memory, individually peak charging (or cycling, or trickling, or whatever) each pack.

Q: Can I charge off a cigarette lighter?
A: Yep, Litco sells a cig adapter that plugs right into the unit.

Q: So what's the downside?
A: Several downsides. Let me explain.

1. No more than 12 cells on a single port.

2. Cannot charge or discharge any one port at a rate exceeding 1000 mah. That means that if all 4 ports are in use for charging, charge rate cannot exceed 250 mah per port. This is why I have two FMA SuperNovas for use at the field. The Litco charger is really best to keep at home and use to get ready for the next flying session. When you get home, you hook up all your batteries and when you wake up, you're ready to fly - no babysitting batteries.

3. Cannot charge lithium ion batteries. If that matters to you.

4. Each time you plug the unit in, you have to set up the charge programs, so I leave mine plugged in all the time. Note: setting up a charge program is quick and relatively mindless, so this isn't too awful.

5. This is the biggest downside. It is HELL to order one of these chargers. They are made by a small company in PA. The demand for the units is so high and so few units are made, that there is a waiting list you have to get on. The waiting list (also called the "Litco Lottery") opens up for new applicants twice a year for about 5 minutes (yep!). During those 5 minutes, you may email in your properly formed order for one Litco charger. Your charger may then arrive up to six months later (at time of ordering, if you are accepted on the waiting list, you will be given a "money due date" and a shipping date). The company is well organized in my opinion and adheres to their rigid schedule fastidiously. Those of you who watched the Seinfeld "Soup Nazi" episode will draw obvious parallels to this whole process, but there it is. I utterly love my Litco chargers, as you might be able to guess

-ZZ


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