|
|
|
|
Latest blog entry: Some of the old engine collection
|
|
|
|
|
|
The intent of F3RES (I believe this, but may be mistaken) was to provide a competition class that was affordable; and forgiving for beginners. It is also challenging for experts. I have found it to be all three.
As part of the FAI pantheon, there will most certainly be a World Championship. I was attracted to F3K because of the affordability. But, technology struck, and two things happened: airplanes became expensive, and I got old. Never a high launcher, now I am a sucky launcher. And NO! Simply adding a motor does not level the playing field between me and Toby, Charlie or Skyler. Nor do I find it attractive to spend a thousand dollars for yet another airplane. But, in F3RES (and now: F3L), I have an affordable means of helping a new crop of would-be flyers learn how to have fun and improve while doing so. The airplanes are nearly the cheapest going; the format allows mistakes; the contest encourages cooperation among competitors. I do not know how others think of F3RES/F3L, but it strikes me as the most level playing field for all competitors I have found so far. Yours, Greg |
|
|
|
||
|
Quote:
Ryan |
|
Latest blog entry: Supergee wing mount pylons
|
||
|
|
|
None of the examples you offered, Ryan lend themselves particularly well to a world championship competition but I think the F3RES/F3L format most certainly does. It also seems to be very popular in Europe where most all WC’s are held. Nothing is ever certain until it happens but I’d be surprised if F3L doesn’t get its own WC down the road.
|
Latest blog entry: Some of the old engine collection
|
|
|
||
|
Quote:
Once before in my RC flying life I became disenchanted with the segment of competition I was in. That was F3A and scale aerobatics, IMAC. And it was the cost and complexity of those models that took most of the fun out of it. F3K certainly can be expensive. Look at the cost of the top airframes and then add servos. With the newest planes add even 2 more…. One can easily get in the $1200-$1400 range for a single plane. Most competitors have 2-3 of them. And look at F5J. I can’t believe how popular that class has become so quickly. There, one plane can cost as much as 3 F3K planes. And from what the serious guys tell me, you need a light one and a heavier one…. That a lot of cost and complexity, when you put it all together. I have one older F5J plane that I fly occasionally. Not enough to justify spending a bunch more money on the class, that’s for sure. I’m hoping to find the same simplicity and fun flying F3RES competitions as you have. Sometimes, less is more. If I don’t find that to be the case, I may walk away from RC soaring altogether. I’m burned out on the wallet contests. Mike |
|
Latest blog entry: Some of the old engine collection
|
||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Quote:
Ryan |
||
Latest blog entry: Supergee wing mount pylons
|
|||
|
|
|
How many?. I don’t know. I just see a lot of interest in it everywhere I look. I also see a lot of new designs coming out of Europe and the price to play is attractive. Will there ever be an official FAI WC? Maybe not but who cares….
|
Latest blog entry: Some of the old engine collection
|
|
|
||
|
Quote:
Ryan |
|
Latest blog entry: Supergee wing mount pylons
|
||
|
|
|
F3res
I first ran across F3RES about 2016. I thought it was a great Idea. I immediately started building a model. So far I have built 6 original F3RES models. Unfortunately, there have not been any Comps within driving distance. I thought F3RES would become popular here in Ca, but, not so much. There are so many competing events.
I do not know yet what the FAI rules will look like but the current rules allow a wide variety of construction techniques. I wouldn’t mind seeing a BOM rule as there are plenty of reasonable kits available that are easy to build. I used to tell newbies “Build a Gentle Lady and another 2 meter and then you can build most anything”. With regard to an F3RES World Champs, why not just do it like we did with the 2MWC. Use existing rules, find a site, promote it and set a date. Call it the F3L World Champs; who can dispute it? On a different but related subject, except for noise, F3K would make a great event for the Olympics. It combines athleticism with skill and tactics. It is relatively inexpensive and a great announcer and good cameramen could make it compelling. It needs some noise. Mike up some pilots during launch. It’l be better than tennis. An F3K world wide Federation with 12 to 15 countries could petition the Olympic committee for a spot in the competition. Individuals and teams. It would be a shot in the arm for glider flying. JDK |
|
|
|
|
|
Can someone please post the link to the official rules. Thanks
|
|
|
|
||
|
Quote:
You can always go here: https://www.fai.org/page/ciam-code And then go to the drop downs and select the options for the area you are interested in (in this case F3 RC Soaring). Today that would be this document: https://www.fai.org/sites/default/fi...soaring_22.pdf but I kind of hesitate to post it because in a year that link will be obsolete. Within this document look for the F3L provisional class. Ryan |
|
Latest blog entry: Supergee wing mount pylons
|
||
|
|
|
Just read, quickly, the F3L provisional rules. (Thanks, Ryan) Mostly ok, except:
-The underside protruberance prohibition would, it seems to me, rule out the type of fin and rudder that the Allegro Light and a number of other designs have, that is partly below the tail boom. Prohibiting a large portion of the existing F3-RES fleet might not be a good idea. -Downwind landing circles might be a problem at some sites. Possibly at ours, though I admit I haven't examined a satellite picture and laid things out. Our winch contests use landing circles off to one side. -Specifying that the landing is a zero if the tail is "way above the ground" seems vague. Also rather colloquial. I reserve the right to criticize other provisions at any time. --------- If there's going to be an electric powered variant, specifying direct drive speed 400 and either 2S lipos or 7 nicads/nimh might keep things cheap and even. 7 nicads and a direct drive Speed 400 were enough for the Allegro Lite, even if launches took a minute or so instead of 30 seconds. I suppose the ubiquitous, brushless equivalent might be better, if there is such a thing. The downside would be disqualifying many existing models. |
|
|
|
||
|
Quote:
How much cheaper would an old Sp400 motor on 7 Nicad cells be than this combo? https://www.hyperflight.co.uk/produc...39g-1100-rpm-v https://www.hyperflight.co.uk/produc...c-with-3a-sbec https://www.genstattu.com/tattu-3s1p...xt30-plug.html |
|
Latest blog entry: Some of the old engine collection
|
||
|
||
|
Quote:
Ryan |
|
Latest blog entry: Supergee wing mount pylons
|
||
Thread Tools | |
Similar Threads | |||||
Category | Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Link | Droneball now official under the F9C FAI Class! | Graupner – Control Hobbies | Multirotor Drone Talk | 0 | Apr 15, 2019 02:21 PM |
Discussion | 3M F3RES Class | kostuk | Thermal Soaring | 105 | Apr 07, 2018 06:52 PM |
Build Log | Revell Skipjack class - Sculpin - build as an easy to dive static submarine | csteika | Submarines | 34 | Nov 21, 2015 05:28 PM |
Discussion | World class support as the capturing reality forum reveals its conference line-up | aviation1985 | Multirotor Drone Talk | 0 | Sep 28, 2015 04:49 AM |
Discussion | Typhoon / Oscar 2 class for as cheap as pos under $2000 | Jonjoe | Submarines | 10 | Feb 06, 2008 02:53 AM |