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Mar 08, 2021, 06:52 AM
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The Oversky will do, but you will have to mix rudder and ailerons in the TX if you want to fly using the right stick only for control and the left for throttle only. The 3181 is already 3 channel and uses the right stick for elevator and rudder, as does the Champ brick I used.

AS3X and SAFE is up to you. SAFE is sort of like training wheels on a bike (no offense intended), and should only be used at first to develop basic piloting skills.

AS3X is essentially an anti-gust system that makes a tiny plane feel like a larger, heavier one in flight on breezy days. The latter is not needed for indoor flying or zero-wind-speed days, but I use it on all my outdoor micros (it's almost always windy living close to the S.F bay).

If you plan to fly outdoors in less than no wind conditions then AS3X is a good idea to consider. Keep in mind that it adds weight. The newest Night Vapor is much heavier than earlier versions or my Black Flyer. That could be bad or good depending on conditions. For indoors, no thanks.
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Mar 08, 2021, 09:05 AM
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Excellent insights AirDOGGe! Perhaps I'll bite the bullet for a Night Vapor so I can enjoy both!
Mar 08, 2021, 09:26 AM
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Winds are persistent, so I made an indoor maiden flight.

https://youtu.be/R94Gt1a0UUc
What's up with that 1920s flapper girl era porno/cabaret music?
Mar 08, 2021, 11:12 AM
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Heh-heh . "The Stripper" by Dave Rose and his Orchestra is a classic, and this is the most stripped down RC plane I ever owned. Talk about bare minimums!
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Mar 08, 2021, 07:05 PM
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Got my outdoor maiden in, even though windy. The flight was short because of.

I also had a bit of misfortune but was able to make good on it.

Black Flyer V2 - Outdoor Maiden Flight (windy) & Prop Shaft Repair (4 min 27 sec)
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Mar 10, 2021, 10:53 AM
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Sorry to be "that guy" but at 10 pieces of .5mm rod CST beats($0.69) the total price of your eBay guy and thats for the Dutch DPP rod which is the best available.
At 20 pieces its $63.30 shipped vs $49.20 for CST.

The nice thing about CST is the prices drops with quantity so for larger purchases they are very difficult to beat. If you need small quantities then eBay is the winner. Also while the shopping cart will show $15 shipping, orders of smaller size rod which can be coiled generally end up at around $10 to the East coast. I just confirmed with them that rod up to .070" (1.8mm) can be coiled so in addition to shipping a bit cheaper you can order 2m(78") long pieces which also lowers the price. YMMV



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I just ordered some CF rod in 0.5, 0.8 and a few other sizes from this source: https://www.ebay.com/itm/223976387478

Shipping is $7.49 for one or several pieces and one or several sizes, so good time to stock up on several useful sizes. I also scored some 1.5mm and 2.0mm for stiffing foam wings and such. Killer prices.
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Mar 10, 2021, 06:12 PM
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That's good to know, "that guy". Thanks for the useful info.
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Mar 12, 2021, 12:22 PM
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INTERESTING thing learned today. The Black Flyer version one had an airfoil wing.

The wing ribs of my Black Flyer V2 had small eyelets on the bottom where they attached to the carbon fiber rods encircling them. Until now I did not know what the extra holes were for.

Now I know:

[Indoorfly] Black Flyer V1 2.4G 6CH Carbon Fiber Film RC Airplane assembly instructions (1 min 20 sec)
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Apr 17, 2021, 09:51 AM
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I finally got my kit and started to build! When attaching the plastic to the frames, do I spray the film, then drop the frame on to it, or do I spray the frame and drop it on to the plastic?
Apr 17, 2021, 10:45 AM
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I finally got my kit and started to build! When attaching the plastic to the frames, do I spray the film, then drop the frame on to it, or do I spray the frame and drop it on to the plastic?
Adhesive would go on the frame.
Apr 17, 2021, 02:47 PM
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I stumbled across what appears to be a copy of the Black Flyer V1. With optional actuators it's almost a cross between BF and the ice Cream: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3279...%2315176%23888
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