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The Golden wing is a 60" forward swept wing for thermal/light air slope.
The Golden Wing is a thermal soaring flying wing with a 60" span and lots of square inches. The Golden Wing is a thermal soaring flying wing with a 60" span and lots of square inches. This is not a kit, I repete this is not a kit. Any one can use this material to make a kit for sail If you wish but I designed this just for my self and any one interested in a large thermal soaring wing. The wing cores are available from www.CNCfoamfactory.com Mark Miranda did a wonderful job of helping me enlarge the Alula wing planform to 60". The Golden wing is a light air thermal /light air sloper for the high start or winch that can be built for basic 2 chanel or up to 5 chanels. The Golden wing has a virgin white foam core and a 18" root cord. The fuse is narrow and roundish and can be made using medium grade 3/16 sheet balsa and fiberglass. The air foil is a thin 6% section designed by B2 designs for large thermal soaring flying wings such as this that do not have rearward swept planforms or washout.
Would someone be willing to put this design of mine in CAD form and also make a PDF format version for me? I need a volunteer here. I will send you a snale mail version of the drawings and then emil you pics so that you can add them to this thread for people to see what the Golden wing looks like. I offered this to the manufacturer of the Alula but they said that they did not care too. Too many irons in the fire? The wing planform and vertical fin is the only thing that resembles the alula. The Alula is a great flying wing that is very popular so I thought why not have some thing simular that I could use my high start on. I have a Nice composite 2 chanel 2 meter sailplane that needed a pal in the stable. So why not try a large flying wing. The foam cores are very nicely cut by Mark Miranda and you will be very happy with the purchase. The cost is very low. I am just useing a top spar only. Its a tapered 1/16" thick sheet of carbon fiber that gets epoxyed into a slot. I will be using 3 servo's, one for each aileron and a single for the split elevators. A basic 2 chanels is all that is used plus some programing to reduce the control surface movement. I have yet to fly this Golden wing but intend to keep you posted as to the progress. Later, kylekroker@yahoo.com |
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Last edited by kylekroker; Jun 09, 2005 at 07:33 AM.
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Hi there guy's.
Last night I desided to look into a consept called the RDS system. www.proptwisters.org then go to Harley's page then to Michaelis then to genie.rchomepage.com look for The (RDS). There is a 10 page document of instructions and how to use this system that is in PDF format. Take a look. This system completely encloses the servo and control horn, pushrods so that its all internal. I cant afford the $70 for the RDS for the Golden wing so I'll have to do it the old fashoined way with exposed horns and such, darn! Last night I trimed the wing tips to match the Alula tips. Then sanded them round. I will try to epoxy 3 layers of 1.4 Oz glass on the leading edge and wing tips. The wing will have 2 layers of 1.4 Oz fiberglass covering the top surface and bottom. The pod will be epoxyed to the wing leading edge. I am considering using sulvan 507 micro thin pushrods to hook up the separate ailerons to the one JR341 servo that is in the pod. The pushrods will hook up via a long ( S ) patern just under the surface of the top surface of the wing. I will do something simular for the single elevator servo that also will be in the pod. Ive yet to desided if I should make the ruder out of foam and glass or built up? Any ideas here? Later, Kyle |
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Any one want to chime in here and ask questions or add a coment?
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David B, I can take the pics and send them to you if you would be willing to put them here on this thread for all to see. Just send me your email address and I will send you some now. I am needing help here, thank you.
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Last edited by kylekroker; Jun 06, 2005 at 10:20 AM.
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Well the pod is now reiforced with uni-carbon fiber and Kevlar. To marrow I can mix a thick batch of micro ballons and epoxy and cover the pod with it. After that sets up I'll sand it and primer it and then paint it. I will paint the entire wing Gold on top and shinny black on the underside. The vertical fin will be Gold on Both sides.
I was able to apply 3 layers of 1.4 Oz glass one inch wide, cut on the bias, to the leading edge and wing tips as well. I used 3m77 to apply all the layers and then used a thinned epoxy to penetrait all the layers. Use rubbing alcohol 20% to 80% epoxy and mix well. The mixture cures up very nice and goes on like thickend water. To marrow or the next day I'll insert the pre cured carbon spar. The Weight of the wing cores with the leading edge glass came out to be 5.25 OZ. The airframe weight I am shooting for is 12 OZ total ready to fly. The wing area is 820 Sqare inches. This equals a wing loading of only 2.1 OZ per square foot! Ive decided to go with only 2 servo's. This means I'll be able to use my 230 miliamp NMH 4 cell batery up in the nose of the pod. I've never flown a flying wing this light off of the high start. I wonder if it will sense those thermals at 2.1 OZ per sq. ft. wing loading? Humpf?....... Any one want to put the pictures up on this site for me? Later, Kyle |
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Last edited by kylekroker; Jun 06, 2005 at 06:12 PM.
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The Golden Wing.
Yes I got your PM and I have now sent Pics to you as well as more text for you to look over. Thank you David.
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Hi there.
Well there seams to be a lot of interested parties in the Golden Wing, some guy emailed me from the Soulth of Astrailia? This put me into after burner mode and so I spent the last 4 hours drafting up the plans. Full size of coarse. I need some one to convert these plans to CAD as well as add there own bit and peices to the plans to make it easy to build. The cost of the plans will be $150.00 if you dont purchase wing cores and only $70 if you do purchase the wing cores. This bird is large to me, so large infact that I had to slide the plan from one side of the coffee table to the other just to complete the plan. I drew it in ink. I gess I will need to have some one build up the second one for purposes of test pilot. Does any one want to build up one the these Golden Wings and test it. I will get you the plans at cost of shipping and printing if you purchase the wing coars from www.CNCfoamfactory.com I will walk you through all steps involved in the construction and you can add builders notes too. The conditions are that you live on the East Cost and try to get one of your palls to build one too. We want as many testors out there as possible. I need to know if my theory is correct that this Golden Wing of mine will thermal in practically nothing and also slope in very light lift down to 5 MPH. The wing loading of 2.1 Oz per square foot makes me believe this is true. This is a light flying wing and would not launch well as a DLG. Later, Kyle |
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Last edited by kylekroker; Jun 09, 2005 at 07:11 AM.
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PM from kyle ->
"Here is the first couple of pics of the Golden wing, Just the beginning of some thing wonderful I originaly made a scale pod exactly like the Alula but realized that I had to do away with that idea due to the fact that the tow hook needs to be located as close to the wings bottom surface as possible. I still have the old pod if you want to purchase it? I have yet to add the 6 oz glass to the inside and reinforce it with CF. This pod is huge and completly round. I made it for a removeable nose cone and it is to scale. The newest pod is more tipical of standard small cross sectional fuselodges and is half the size in diameter. I wont sell the scale fuse untill its finished and untill I can find a buyer. The cost of the larger scale pod is $50.00. There is only one available unless someone wants me to make a mold of it and then I will sell more. The smaller one will also cost $50.00 if there is interested parties also. I must have 5 separate orders until I will sell even one and only if the checks actually clear. Both pods take a lot of time to make and a lot of R&D went into making them. The wing cores are wonderfull and can be purchased from CNCfoamfactory. Check for prices with Mr.Mark Miranda. Later, Kyle" He also mentioned.... "the plans are available for $35.00 with a pod and $55.00 with out a pod" |
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HI there.
The air foil is not to be released under penatly of death! There is a ruff aproximation of the root air foil on the plans but this will not if just copeid make for optimom performance. Other than that I got a price quote from CNCfoamfactory on the cost of these precious sets of wing cores will be $70.00 Plus shiping..... I was in discusion with the project structural engineer he said the wing will only need half of the spar that I came up with so it will definatly make the weight goal. I just want the Golden Wing to go up on the winch and for light slope. He told me I designed the spar for complete DSing which is way over kill. So There is always room for improvment in this hobbie buisness. |
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Hi there.
The pics are posted and I hope you like it as much as the designer does. I went ahead and posted a ruff drawing of the Alula to show you what I was trying to emulate in the 60" size. Later, Kyle |
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