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Select a team without a TS contest:
-Oleg compiles a list and contacts our potential contestants who are willing to go and PAY THEIR OWN WAY (because there will be no guarantee of funding). They should also be willing to attend a TS contest if things open up faster than anticipated. This should be done in any case just to see if we can even field a team. -Reasonable outliers, willing to follow Mickey's to-do list above, can also volunteer for consideration. -A panel considers the names and selects the team. The rationale for each pilot would be public. The vote and the proceedings confidential. Points: -Fund raising is likely to be an insurmountable problem before travel. -Logistics of running a TS is already a problem. -You may not have enough volunteers in any case making the entire exercise moot. There may be no need for a TS if no one is willing to go to Slovakia in August. -We need a team sooner than regular cycles to clear all the Covid hurdles. -We are fortunate to have people in our F3K midst that are fair, analytical, data driven and objective. They can be counted on to make the proper selections. -YES, this is an imperfect way to select the team but...blah, blah, blah.... So, If I was F3K MFWIC, I would just have Oleg make a list of potential contestants and select the team from those on the list that can and want to go. I say Oleg because: If he was willing and able to go, he'd be the first person to eliminate himself if someone better presented themselves. Then he runs it by a panel; let's say people like Mickey, Tom Siler, Tom Kiesling and any others cut from the same cloth. This is what needs to happen for this cycle only, pending a waiver of the current TS directives.... Reid not a reasonable outlier |
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Thanks for all your thoughtful replies!
Yes, there is an option to not send the team at all. That's the easiest option of all It is not the most exciting one I think we shouldn't resign yet. Even if we say there is nearly no financial support, I suspect there will be a few pilots who want to be on the team bad enough to pay most of their expenses. So I hear at least two pilots say, push back the TS event to March-April or even May. What about the rest of y'all? M Seid, M Smith, Jun C, Gorilla, Finch, Gregg B, Paul A, Skyler, Clint, Padilla, Gavin, Nathan B, Jason C, James H, Banks, Rick J, Joseph D, (I am forgetting a dozen more) - what do you think? Do you give a damn? Of course you do! Speak up. Do you plan to attend the TS event? Can you attend/travel? Will it improve your chance of attending if we push it back to March-April? May? |
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Yeah, I knew you'd say that about the committee vote. That's why you're the right guy to make the call!
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Be aware that would have to be approved by the AMA and goes against the AMA's publicized team selection processes (https://www.modelaircraft.org/sites/..._BOOKFEB14.pdf)
This being very unusual times maybe the powers that be in the AMA would approve this way of selecting a team. If people are in favor of your suggested way of selecting the 2021 team they should reach out to Oleg and Tom K who then if they agree would discuss this idea with the AMA powers that be. Ryan |
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I think the point I was alluding to but not making directly was covered more by Reid... that whomever is selected will either be responsible for much of their own expenses or at the very least can expect to be responsible for their own fundraising. Committee selections will cause much ripple in our already fragile community. I would hate to see it come to that but it's an alternative to consider. Obviously I'm a consider ALL avenues guy. |
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I'll start off by saying I do plan on attending the TS event. Whenever that may be.
IMO, I would likely push back the TS a few months (early May?). We will have a clearer picture of things by then. Notice, I said clearer. Not necessarily better, but I'm hopeful! I agree with all the challenges stated above so I will not expand on that. Some of them will be difficult to overcome at best. One potential challenge that I would like to bring up is a team pilot having enough enough models for the Worlds. I think we can solve this problem easily. If a pilot is selected to the team and does not have enough models, or enough time to assemble models, why don't we simply loan our models out? I for one would be first in line to lend out my models to any team pilot who needed them. I would hand them over at the close of the TS contest. Yeah, maybe its not the right color (real men fly pink by the way) or the right brand, but if it help them get to 5 models so be it. Consider it a donation to Team USA - one that you will eventually get back (hopefully in one piece ). I'm sure there are other solutions to this but the sooner we solve some of the problems the sooner we can start to relax and focus on other problems. Ryan |
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I agree with delaying the TS until March/April/May time frame.
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my thoughts, which I realize may not be too popular. But hopefully I’m being realistic.
we can’t plan around Covid because no one knows what it’s going to affect in the short, medium, or long term. We should pick a date and stick to it. We delayed in the past for a few. The new date still presents problems for some, not all due to covid. Any new date we pick will still have all the same chances of some who would like to attend not being able to attend. Happened to me last cycle. Probably happened to others in past cycles, and will probably happen again this cycle. I agree pilots should be willing/able to pay their own way. That may eliminate some strong competitors. But if we say that up front now, everyone has the same chance to figure out the finances/vacation time/etc now. If we wait til June/July, we may have a great team that no one can actually go to the WC. Do other countries fundraise, seem I heard that most do not? I don’t think we should delay past end of March/first half of April. It’s not likely that Covid restrictions are going to significantly ease in the states that have locked down by May anyways. I’m willing to travel to Florida whatever the date. If mid February-mid March I know Finch is out due to work. But let’s pick a date and stick to it. Going the committee route should never happen. It will create bad feeling no matter whom is chosen. If you’re willing to go to the worlds you should be willing to show up for a contest here in the US. |
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I would love to attend the TS. Even though I didn't make Oleg's list , I've put time on all of em over the years.
If the February date sticks there is no way I will. Push it back... maybe, hopefully, I would definitely try. Julie got her shot yesterday and she is the tip of the spear for front line workers. + 21 days to second shot + 28 days to antibodies. + No chance I'll even get the first dose by then even though I am "essential"..... International travel by august isn't even a done deal.... Really hope we can all get back to flying together in the near future.... |
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