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Oct 17, 2020, 04:28 PM
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EZFly Building Adventure


I am 60 years away from my last control line plane. At the time, I wanted to have an RC plane but could not afford one. Here I am years later looking to fulfill my boyhood dream.

After countless hours on the site I purchased a FT mini scout. This was a considered decision, knowing there were other planes that were better for rookie RC pilots. I narrowed it down to the Blue Baby, EZFly, and the YAK. I decided on the kit as I thought it would be an easier start than going from scratch. I did not want a pre built because building anything is half the fun. What I did not do is order their component pack for $79.00. I thought it would be kind of fun to shop around for everything I needed, but then I got overwhelmed because it was difficult for me to find identical components.

Following are the suggested parts, plus I need a battery and charger.
(1) Motor - Radial 1806 2280kV
(1) Flite Test 20A w/XT-30 Connector
(4) Servos - Flite Test ES9051 5g Servo
(1) Y-Lead (30cm)
(2) Extensions (20cm)
(4) Linkage Stoppers
(2) Propellers (6x3)
(1) Allen Wrench (1.5mm)
(1) Phillips Screwdriver

So the purpose of this post is to seek advice as to whether I should just get the available premade pack or if you could help me select the pieces I need from other sources. I do not want to order anything from out of the continental U.S.

Balsa or Carbon had a great list of parts in his post, but I they are for a bigger plane than the little scout. I also need the Transmitter and Receiver.

I would appreciate any help you can provide.

Thanks,

Matt
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Oct 17, 2020, 05:26 PM
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I am 60 years away from my last control line plane. At the time, I wanted to have an RC plane but could not afford one. Here I am years later looking to fulfill my boyhood dream.

After countless hours on the site I purchased a FT mini scout. This was a considered decision, knowing there were other planes that were better for rookie RC pilots. I narrowed it down to the Blue Baby, EZFly, and the YAK. I decided on the kit as I thought it would be an easier start than going from scratch. I did not want a pre built because building anything is half the fun. What I did not do is order their component pack for $79.00. I thought it would be kind of fun to shop around for everything I needed, but then I got overwhelmed because it was difficult for me to find identical components.


So the purpose of this post is to seek advice as to whether I should just get the available premade pack or if you could help me select the pieces I need from other sources. I do not want to order anything from out of the continental U.S.

Balsa or Carbon had a great list of parts in his post, but I they are for a bigger plane than the little scout. I also need the Transmitter and Receiver.

I would appreciate any help you can provide.

Thanks,

Matt
I've tried parting it out and you're better off buying the kit from them, plus you'll have the correct parts.

I eventually did part it out only because I was given some parts (like the motor and a bunch of servos), but when I was trying to find the parts I found it cheaper to buy their kit. I am waiting for my ESC now because the 40AMP ESC I had is too large to fit. I was given a constructed body for the mini scout from my son who built it in school and has no interest in making it fly.
Oct 17, 2020, 05:30 PM
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I am 60 years away from my last control line plane. At the time, I wanted to have an RC plane but could not afford one. Here I am years later looking to fulfill my boyhood dream.

After countless hours on the site I purchased a FT mini scout. This was a considered decision, knowing there were other planes that were better for rookie RC pilots. I narrowed it down to the Blue Baby, EZFly, and the YAK. I decided on the kit as I thought it would be an easier start than going from scratch. I did not want a pre built because building anything is half the fun. What I did not do is order their component pack for $79.00. I thought it would be kind of fun to shop around for everything I needed, but then I got overwhelmed because it was difficult for me to find identical components.

Following are the suggested parts, plus I need a battery and charger.
(1) Motor - Radial 1806 2280kV
(1) Flite Test 20A w/XT-30 Connector
(4) Servos - Flite Test ES9051 5g Servo
(1) Y-Lead (30cm)
(2) Extensions (20cm)
(4) Linkage Stoppers
(2) Propellers (6x3)
(1) Allen Wrench (1.5mm)
(1) Phillips Screwdriver

So the purpose of this post is to seek advice as to whether I should just get the available premade pack or if you could help me select the pieces I need from other sources. I do not want to order anything from out of the continental U.S.

Balsa or Carbon had a great list of parts in his post, but I they are for a bigger plane than the little scout. I also need the Transmitter and Receiver.

I would appreciate any help you can provide.

Thanks,

Matt
Here is a list all from one place for convenience :

Motor
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/ax-1806n..._2_group_0_asc

ESC
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbykin..._2_group_0_asc

Propeller
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/master-a..._2_group_0_asc

Prop adapter
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/propelle...en_us_products

Servo
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hxt500-m...en_us_products

Connectors for ESC to motor
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/2mm-gold..._2_group_0_asc

Battery
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-..._2_group_0_asc

Connector for ESC to battery
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/xt30u-m-...en_us_products

Transmitter/receiver
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbykin...en_us_products

Lipo battery balance charger
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbykin..._2_group_0_asc

Lipo battery voltage checker
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/6s-hobby...en_us_products


You'll also need some heat shrink tube for the soldering .

There are more expensive choices for transmitters and battery chargers , if you would like to look at them .... let me know .

When ordering from HobbyKing :

1) make sure everything you order is in stock , and order everything from the same warehouse . The USA warehouse is in Portland , and will likely have faster shipping than the international warehouse .

2) pay only with PayPal , other payment methods make take days to process .
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Oct 17, 2020, 05:49 PM
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Matt , have you already built the Mini Scout airframe ?
Oct 17, 2020, 07:06 PM
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HobbyKing - buyer beware


I ordered a battery charger from HobbyKing - US warehouse, the web site said it was in stock.

A MONTH LATER, they contacted me and told me that the item was not in stock. I'm still waiting for them to process my refund.

Just because their site says the item is in stock doesn't mean it's in stock.
Oct 17, 2020, 11:29 PM
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A alternative good place to buy, aloft hobbies:
Motor:
https://alofthobbies.com/emax-cf2812...ess-motor.html
Slower motor like this combined with 7x4 prop has a pleasing flight and lot of power to climb. I use a old blue wonder 1500kv and the miniscout fly quiet and nice

ESC:
https://alofthobbies.com/emax-nano-s...e-braking.html
I use a 10A esc and it is enough. My MIniscout take off at 60% of throttle or at 40% or less when I launch with my hand

Battery:
I recommend a 800mah battery because the miniscout needs more weight in the nose 400mah battery wasnít enough to me. I use a dualsky eco but this one is great

https://alofthobbies.com/tattu-850-3s-45c.html

SERVOS
This one work great and is light

https://alofthobbies.com/power-hd-16...-12sec-6g.html

There are one more lighter (3,6grs I guess) but I didnít use it yet


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Oct 18, 2020, 04:32 PM
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No haven't started to build yet. Will hopefully start end of the week.
Oct 18, 2020, 04:58 PM
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No haven't started to build yet. Will hopefully start end of the week.
Will you be learning to fly an RC airplane for the very first time , without assistance from an experienced RC airplane flyer ? If so , I strongly recommend setting the Mini Scout aside for the time being .... and starting with a simple disposable plane that will protect the motor & prop . Then fly the Mini Scout after you have some experience .

At the field where I fly , a father & son came up to me and asked if I could help them fly their Mini Scout that they just built . I got it balanced and trimmed for them , and then the dad flew it for about 2 or 3 seconds until it crashed nose first into the ground and broke the motor . The heavy wing loading made it too fast ( for a beginner ) , and the small size made it too twitchy .

I gave them one of my lightweight EzFlys , and they both had several successful flights with the EzFly .

If that makes sense to you , I'll be happy to help you make a simple disposable plane that will protect the motor/prop .
Oct 18, 2020, 06:11 PM
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I agree. I had the same experience helping someone out with a MS .................. way too heavy and too fast.
Oct 18, 2020, 08:23 PM
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Ok, thanks. I'll check out the ezyfly. Your advice makes a lot of sense. I note in the posts there are plans somewhere for a 28" model which may be better for my backyard circumstance than a 42". I have just spent somewhere near an hour looking for the plans, but only found the plans from 2010. Do you have something different you are using to make your ezuflys?
Oct 18, 2020, 09:10 PM
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Ok, thanks. I'll check out the ezyfly. Your advice makes a lot of sense. I note in the posts there are plans somewhere for a 28" model which may be better for my backyard circumstance than a 42". I have just spent somewhere near an hour looking for the plans, but only found the plans from 2010. Do you have something different you are using to make your ezuflys?
In my opinion , for flying in a small space like a back yard ..... slow is more important than small . To make an EzFly or any other plane slow flying , the main ingredient is low wing loading ..... maximum wing area combined with minimum weight .

If you were to make an EzFly : I recommend making a standard size fuselage , but with the wingspan extended to 36" , 38" , 40" or 42" ( to increase the wing area ) .... and using lightweight electronics . The electronics in my list from HobbyKing would work well for a lightweight EzFly , and can then be re-used for your Mini Scout later . If you are planning to use foam board from the Dollar Tree store , you can save almost 50% of the airframe weight if you peel the paper skins off .

Here are the best/latest plans for the EzFly ( PDF file ) : https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...6&d=1334660760 Have you downloaded/printed plans before ? If not , I'll be happy to show you how .


Here is a video of a lightweight EzFly with extended wingspan , every beginner who has flown it was able to do so easily because of the flying speed and stability .



Copy of EzFly with under-cambered wing (1 min 57 sec)
Oct 19, 2020, 02:20 PM
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An EzFly is flat foam vertical pieces combined with flat foam horizontal pieces . In the photos below are the pieces you should get from the plans .
Oct 19, 2020, 04:23 PM
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Thank you! If I use DTFB it would seem that I would need to laminate sheets paper free sheets together to obtain the proper thickness. Do I need to use a three sheet lamination or a two? Or, three sheet lamination for the fuselage and two sheet lamination for the wings, elevator and rudder? I seem to remember seeing somewhere that the 3m 77 spray adhesive could be used to laminate the sheets together...
Oct 19, 2020, 04:45 PM
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I printed out the 20 page plan using Adobe Reader Poster at 100%. Looks like I have the 42" original size version
Oct 19, 2020, 05:07 PM
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Thank you! If I use DTFB it would seem that I would need to laminate sheets paper free sheets together to obtain the proper thickness. Do I need to use a three sheet lamination or a two? Or, three sheet lamination for the fuselage and two sheet lamination for the wings, elevator and rudder? I seem to remember seeing somewhere that the 3m 77 spray adhesive could be used to laminate the sheets together...
To save weight , go ahead and make it single layer paper-less Dollar Tree foam board . The thickness will only make a difference in two places :

1) Where the wing fits into the fuselage . You'll have a small gap on top of the wing , you can fill in that gap with a piece of scrap foam .

2) After final assembly , the rudder will stick out a tiny bit on the bottom ..... you can just trim that off .




The only lamination will be the two nose doublers to the fuselage , and the KFm doubler on top of the leading edge of the wing .



It's easiest to first cut out all the various pieces , then peel the paper skins off of the various pieces . To peel off large sheets of paper easily , it helps to first spray them with some denatured alcohol .
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