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May 06, 2020, 04:45 PM
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FAA… more rules …???


Guys, I got this today … see what you can make of it …


May 5, 2020
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WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of Transportation’s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today announced the eight companies that will assist the Federal government in establishing requirements for future suppliers of Remote Identification (Remote ID). Remote ID will enable Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS), commonly called drones, to provide identification and location information while operating in the nation’s airspace.

The FAA selected the following companies to develop technology requirements for future Remote ID UAS Service Suppliers (USS): Airbus, AirMap, Amazon, Intel, One Sky, Skyward, T-Mobile, and Wing. These companies were selected through a Request for Information process in December 2018.

“The FAA will be able to advance the safe integration of drones into our nation’s airspace from these technology companies’ knowledge and expertise on remote identification,” said U.S. Transportation Secretary Elaine L. Chao.

This initial group will support the FAA in developing technology requirements for other companies to develop applications needed for Remote ID. The applications will provide drone identification and location information to safety and security authorities while in flight.

The technology is being developed simultaneously with the proposed Remote ID rule. Application requirements will be announced when the final rule is published. The FAA will then begin accepting applications for entities to become Remote ID suppliers. The FAA will provide updates when other entities can apply to become qualified Remote ID USS on FAA.gov.

Drones are a fast-growing segment of the transportation sector with nearly 1.5 million drones and 160,000 remote pilots now registered with the FAA. The agency’s ability to develop Remote ID technology simultaneously with the rule enables the FAA to continue to build on a UAS Traffic Management (UTM) system that has demonstrated global leadership through the small UAS rule and the implementation of the Low Altitude Authorization and Notification Capability (LAANC), which automates the application and approval process for most UAS operators to obtain airspace authorizations.”


I’d hate to think we’d need some type of "black box" on my 250gr .. Foamie
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May 06, 2020, 05:15 PM
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Whats the freekin difference ?

I am going to be Sequestered in my home while everyone else go's back to work.

The Govt wants a black box in every one of my models
and my wife wants one in my shorts !

Meanwhile those supposed IFF or Remote ID folks are ALL
GOING TO BE MAKING A FORTUNE with Govt Help by MINING our Pocketbooks !
There's an investment tip for ya !

I'm starting to think that Covi19 is here to put us OUT of this misery !

Whatever happened to those tiny little capsule sized ID tags that the satellites could monitor from space ?
They use them to monitor endangered species for cripes sake !

I got your endangered species for ya RIGHT THERE ! it's US Modelers - AND YOU'RE NEXT !
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May 07, 2020, 04:07 AM
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This is starting to get a little out of hand !!! Looks like AMA dropped the ball ! And the current government’s misplaced priorities are attempting to kill our hobby … grrr!!!

What’s next regulating folded paper planes ??? Mind control ???

“ We are Not amused ! “
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May 07, 2020, 05:30 AM
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Looks like the FAA is going full speed ahead with their original remote ID concept despite all the information submitted in the comment segment of the rule making process. Seems like they had no intention of considering any changes. Why should public input matter in this disappearing democracy? Scary.
May 08, 2020, 12:11 AM
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May 08, 2020, 12:29 AM
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[QUOTE=gpw;44453061]This is starting to get a little out of hand !!! Looks like AMA dropped the ball ! And the current government’s misplaced priorities are attempting to kill our hobby … grrr!!!


I've been monitoring this for a while now! As a AMA Member, it looks to me that the AMA didn't drop the Ball! They never had it! They were never concerned about it! I'm done with the AMA! The AMA should take a look at how the NRA looks after its members interest. They could learn a lot!
May 08, 2020, 05:37 AM
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Without being “political” , this Government must be REPLACED … or our hobby might as well be Dead …
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May 08, 2020, 05:46 AM
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I’m surprised those in the “Hobby Industrial Complex “ didn’t do any more , they all stand to lose big time . I guess that’s what happens when most of our Hobby products come from China … ?
Seems there’s nothing on the HORIZON … nothing for us anyway
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May 08, 2020, 07:00 AM
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Guys I am as PO'D as anybody, but you have to realize that the FAA is under pressure from DHS, DOD, Secret Service, etc. No way AMA and we modelers can stand up to that pressure. Remote ID is going to be a fact of life. The only issue now is what are the new regs going to look like? We got a preview when the proposed regs went out for comment. Is the FAA going modify them? We wil have to wait and see.
May 08, 2020, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by potshot
Looks like the FAA is going full speed ahead with their original remote ID concept despite all the information submitted in the comment segment of the rule making process. Seems like they had no intention of considering any changes. Why should public input matter in this disappearing democracy? Scary.
I feel like its on of those " we let them think they have a say in this " but they never did type of deal..
i was very dis pointed at the end results not more people voted and submitted story's, I did three times, my wife to be left one herself. i tried to get everyone i knew to go fill it out.. This has been a very long hobby for me 31 years this year, something my father got me into and now hes gone.. I don't have kids so no one to pass it on to but many do and i just don't understand why they want to make it so hard to enjoy this simple hobby.

This letter i got is just showing me there going forward with the planes to ID remote all drones, but i guess we will just have to wait and see what there going to classify as a drone... just aircraft ( plane,helicopter,quad) that has a camera on board or anything that flys with a remote. I sure heck hope its the first one..

RC company's big ones at least will still be around i am sure they will team up and just start putting remote ID into all new products, planes, Rx or whatever...
I still say its all BS. it will not stop anyone who still wants to break the rules. and I still think anyone who is a AMA member shouldn't have to do it cause were not the ones out flying our aircraft's into real planes or helicopters they need to understand if your a true modeler. you want to take your toy plane home in one piece and not destroy it. these things cost money.. I know someone who said he will continue to fly on his property no matter what. its crazy to think they will be able to lock you up for flying a toy aircraft on your own private property.
I do think the AMA did a crappy job of trying to protect our hobby...
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May 08, 2020, 11:52 AM
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Here you are exempt if under 8.8 ounces/250 grams. Is it the same south of the 49th? If not, does that mean a 'black box' on your 2.5 ounce Ultrix?

Our gov. originally 'proposed' some weird wacky brain dead regulations, but dropped the most bizarre when they became law.

Still, we just had an incident at the local airport with a big drone/multi rotor .
May 08, 2020, 07:35 PM
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Here you are exempt if under 8.8 ounces/250 grams. Is it the same south of the 49th? If not, does that mean a 'black box' on your 2.5 ounce Ultrix?

Our gov. originally 'proposed' some weird wacky brain dead regulations, but dropped the most bizarre when they became law.

Still, we just had an incident at the local airport with a big drone/multi rotor .
For now that is how it is but who knows if it will be changed or not.
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May 08, 2020, 10:17 PM
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This is starting to get a little out of hand !!! Looks like AMA dropped the ball ! And the current government’s misplaced priorities are attempting to kill our hobby … grrr!!!

What’s next regulating folded paper planes ??? Mind control ???

“ We are Not amused ! “
AMA never had a chance when it was going against nameless bureaucrats in DC who were paid off in big $$$ stuffed plain Manila envelopes and all expense paid family vacations to Disney world by amazon and those other companies.

You think it’s the government that needs replaced? What exactly do you mean by that? I don’t think you understand who most of the government is. They are faceless. Nameless. Unelected. Unfireable. Know it all bureaucrats, who don’t care what the little people’s problems are. In fact things are better for them when they can create more problems for everyone else. More job security. More requests for funding and bigger staffs.
The only way for that change to take place is for a big meteorite to hit Washington DC.

Also, the so called “hobby industrial complex” in the USA is puny, and mostly supplied by China with all the slave labor made toys everyone here so loves. They also could never compete money wise against the companies in this deal.

Best thing is Do Not Comply
Keep flying RC
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May 09, 2020, 04:03 AM
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Today’s release … FWIW ?
"Remote ID Cohort Information
Thanks for the questions we received after yesterday’s press release on the Remote ID Cohort. To clarify, the Cohort is not part of the decision-making process for the proposed Remote ID rule final rule. The Cohort will help the FAA develop technology requirements for other companies to develop applications needed for Remote ID. The comment period on the Remote ID Notice of Proposed Rulemaking closed on March 2, 2020, and the FAA is reviewing the more than 53,000 comments.

If you are a member of the media, contact us at [email protected] and a public affairs specialist will respond.

If you are a drone operator with questions about Remote ID, or any other drone-related question, please email [email protected] or call 844-FLY-MY-UA. “


Make of it what you will …
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May 09, 2020, 08:05 AM
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THE SWAMP = COHORT lobbyists + faceless. Nameless. Unelected. Unfireable bureaucrats in DC

If The President had an unfettered 4 yrs in office he might be able to attend to FIXING
the bureaucrat problem.


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