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Mar 13, 2017, 06:42 AM
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love that video in Russia? Is it true flying as much as you can is the only way to get really good fast?
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Mar 13, 2017, 09:51 AM
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Glad you found the discussion useful.
Mar 15, 2017, 08:54 AM
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Hi. Very useful information! Thanks! I would like to try it actually, but i can, due to serious health problems linked with heart diseases. Today i have many other issues to treat and many drugs to use like genotropin hoping that it will help. This was my dream, but unfortunately i don't have any chances...
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Mar 15, 2017, 11:39 AM
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The following routine is one that I teach and encourage my students to practice in order to gain confidence and competence. And I will test them on this.
  • preflight safety check
  • range check
  • safe and proper take off
  • fly a large circle around the field at least double tree height upwind from our position
  • Same circle in the oppoosite direction - staying upwind of our position
  • figure 8 over the center of the field upwind of our position
  • Demonstrate and recover from a stall
  • Power off glide for a reasonable time for this particular model, usually 30 seconds, staying upwind of our position
  • proper set-up for a landing into the wind
  • Land safely and in control in an appropriate location

Remember, the key to success for new pilots is not the number of tricks they can perform on their first flight. It is the ability to take off safely, fly with confidence and land safely so they can fly again. I recommend they perform the above routine 10 times safely before they even consider any kind of tricks.

Stunting is usually when they get in trouble and crash the plane. Then they blame the plane or the radio. Only after they show competence at the above do I even talk about loops, tail slides or anything else.

We fly on a government owned field. By rule the County considers them Novice and they can't fly alone until they are tested and passed by an examiner. Above is the test that we use, so I am teaching to the test. I tell them this is what they have to do to be considered a senior pilot on this field so they can fly unsupervised. And I demonstarate what I want to see.

I have had people pass the test on the first day and some who could not do it after a whole season.
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Mar 15, 2017, 02:39 PM
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quote... "Is it true flying as much as you can is the only way to get really good fast?"

The path to skill is paved ONLY with practice. It -may- not get you there 'fast' but it's still the ONLY way to get there. Meaning you can't take a pill, read a book, or listen to subliminal tapes to gain skill.
Apr 25, 2017, 10:58 PM
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I learned the dumb way: be careful while full throttle inverted flying close to the ground
Apr 27, 2017, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ready2Crash
I learned the dumb way: be careful while full throttle inverted flying close to the ground
That's NOT a purely beginner mistake!! A local guy, Very Good pilot, many years experience on many kinds of planes, bought a used RxR from LHS. You know, the ones hanging in the ceiling. It was a foamie pattern profile about 36" or so. By coincidence I happened to be at LHS when he bought it and was looking forward to seeing him fly it. By coincidence I happened to be at the field the first time he brought it. By coincidence, that day a Pro guy happened to be there practicing. And by Pro I mean factory sponsored 30 years experience 24/7 'text-while-flying' kinda pilot. He shall remain nameless here.

For whatever reason, New Plane Guy asked Pro guy to do the first flight for him. Sure! he says. He's always very helpful not an elite aristocrat type. So he puts it up and immediately ripped into it with all the advanced world champion moves he knows. The plane is excellent. Perfect. So he takes it down for a low slow pass down the center of the PAVED runway, -inverted-, about waist high. Perfect. At least until, right in front of us , he pulled the elevator back. Faceplant. Only a yard or two of debris field because it was going very slow and hit straight on no angle. Surprisingly little damage, just ripped off he motor mount. Not immediately, but later I asked him what happened. He says, "I forgot." The side view of a pattern profile is very symmetrical. There was nothing distinctive about upright or inverted, and being a brand new plane to -him- he simply didn't see the difference between the orientations.
Apr 28, 2017, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jbarchuk
quote... "Is it true flying as much as you can is the only way to get really good fast?"

The path to skill is paved ONLY with practice. It -may- not get you there 'fast' but it's still the ONLY way to get there. Meaning you can't take a pill, read a book, or listen to subliminal tapes to gain skill.
The key to learning quickly is don't try to reinvent the wheel. There is a hundred years of accumulated knowledge and trial and error. Learn the basics first then practice. As you progress keep reading to ensure you are practicing correctly.
May 26, 2017, 09:47 AM
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As mentioned in the first post, respect the wind.

You are flying in a fluid, air, which is very much like water in the ocean. You would not go out to learn how to operate a boat in a storm. Yet so many newbies take their first flights in 15 mph winds and wonder why the plane doesn't fly well.

Wait for a calm day. A light breeze of 5 mph or less is best, especially if you are flying a light weight or small aircraft.
Jun 07, 2017, 08:31 AM
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I am just finishing my first RC plane - a Bix3 RTF to which I added the flap servos - because I can!?

The supplied RC is Mode 2.

In point 6) you mention a full range check. What is it and how does one do it?

The supplied HK-T6A V2 6 Channel transmitter (TX) has a button labelled Bind Range Test. What is it and what should I do with it?

I note that the flaps control is on VR-B (left hand"volume" knob) does this seem correct? If it isn't I'd welcome some guidance on how to move it to, for example, a switch so that flaps are either down or up. I don't plan to start my flying exploits using the flaps but it would help to know that they are correctly set up.

Now I have all the bits together I am just adjusting all the surfaces so that they are, to my eye, neutral with all the trim tabs at mid point (except the throttle which is set at the bottom) and all controls at neutral and awaiting uber-calm conditions before I head out for my first tentative steps into RC flying.

Finally, in respect of my TX, it has a connection on the back with a cable that goes to a USB on my PC together with a small CD with what (to me) is fairly meaningless and unexplained software on it. Is there a link to a useful guide to that? Will that connector also enable me to use the TX to control an RC simulator on said PC and, if so, which simulator is recommended?

Sorry for the lengthy post but one has lots of questions at the outset ;-)
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Jun 07, 2017, 11:43 AM
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I don't have your radio so I can't tell you how your radio works. You need to read your instructions.

With most radios, range check is a mode where the the transmitter puts out at a much lower power level. The instructions will tell you to put the radio into range check mode, power up the plane and then walk away a specified number of steps and confirm that you have solid control. Usually you want to do this with the motor off. Have someone hold the plane then check it again with the motor on to be sure that there is no interference begin caused by the motor or the ESC.

When I put up a new plane I do this and then I walk around the plane so I can range check it from all directions to be sure the antenna are not blocked from any directions. On a new plane I also do a range check with the plane held by someone so that I am looking at the bottom since most of the time I am
seeing the plane from below.

So, read your instructions to determine how to put the radio into range check mode. Walk out the specified number of feet or steps and test to be sure you have solid control.

I also back-up till I lose control to see how far out I can go before I lose control in range check mode.

For my radio the range check distance is 100 feet. I know I will lose control around 120 feet. If I can get beyond that then the radio is not in range check mode.

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