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Feb 28, 2020, 12:28 AM
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The rules in Ireland for flying RC are not much different. Just do a google..................
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Feb 28, 2020, 01:33 AM
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And I've tried to find the local club several times with no luck. maybe time to try again.

If I remember correctly, flying anything over 1kg here requires registering it and belonging to a club. And no matter what you're flying, gotta obey the altitude and distance limits!
Feb 28, 2020, 08:37 AM
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1kg seems more reasonable than 8 ounces … Although we have a lot of 8 oz, Foamies ( just by going with lighter batteries ) , it leaves out gliders , scale planes , slowflyers anything larger than the usual <36” parkflyer …( read: TOY )

Don’t get me wrong , Even I get Nervous around those LARGE RC planes , especially the Jets doing 200mph …
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Feb 28, 2020, 09:14 AM
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And I've tried to find the local club several times with no luck. maybe time to try again.

If I remember correctly, flying anything over 1kg here requires registering it and belonging to a club. And no matter what you're flying, gotta obey the altitude and distance limits!
The BMFA club site doesn't show any clubs in the RoI, a few in the north.

Easiest is probably to find any local model/hobby shops within 10 miles and contact them as they should know of any club or local modellers.

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Feb 28, 2020, 09:46 AM
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I note that the Air Accident Investigation Board (AAIB) in the UK are now including commercial UAV accidents in their monthly accident reports.
So far all have been multi rotors in 5 kg category and nearly all from motor or ESC failure resulting in an uncontrolled descent to the ground in public places.
The AAIB make the comment that such a failure would not be nearly so serious in a conventional plane and that a 5 kg drop from 50 ft or more could be considered life threatening.
If the current UAV accident rate continues I suspect it will only be a matter of time before AAIB 'comments' would become 'recommendations' that the CAA in the UK would not be able to easily ignore.
Feb 28, 2020, 10:07 AM
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I note that the Air Accident Investigation Board (AAIB) in the UK are now including commercial UAV accidents in their monthly accident reports.
So far all have been multi rotors in 5 kg category and nearly all from motor or ESC failure resulting in an uncontrolled descent to the ground in public places.
The AAIB make the comment that such a failure would not be nearly so serious in a conventional plane and that a 5 kg drop from 50 ft or more could be considered life threatening.
If the current UAV accident rate continues I suspect it will only be a matter of time before AAIB 'comments' would become 'recommendations' that the CAA in the UK would not be able to easily ignore.
Interesting (and sobering) information.
Pity legislation can't make a better distinction between hard falling 'copters and soft falling foamies...
Feb 28, 2020, 10:43 AM
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In my comment to the FAA I suggested that multicopters alka "drones" should be registered at purchase similarly to handguns here in USA (along with required instruction certification of pilot owner) with a national database. I suppose we could have some classes to separate those under .5 kg (minimum risk) and over .5kg with fpv and GPS for instance (maximum risk- assault weapon grade).

It does give one pause to consider a 12lb brick with 4 to 8 spinning knives dropping straight down on a crowd! One would think the FAA could distinguish that risk from a piece of building insulation fluttering down, eh
Feb 28, 2020, 11:22 PM
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The problem here is that the authorities consider everything we fly RC as DRONES!

Even my 4 ounce slope wing that I fly out over the ocean.
Feb 29, 2020, 06:05 AM
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That distinction alone is ridiculous ! Made by uncaring politicians totally Ignorant of our purpose and intent .

Lets either Educate them , or replace them !!!
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Feb 29, 2020, 01:32 PM
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Back a few years ago when all this silliness began, the minister of transport when revealing the new rules for drones on national TV ended his dissertation in saying "if you see anyone out there doing anything wrong, phone 911"!

Talk about brain dead politicians!!

Shortly after that a cop showed up locally when a kid was out flying an Ember at night under the street lights at the end of a cul-de-sac.
Feb 29, 2020, 07:43 PM
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And yet the Socialists may have a shot this fall ! ! !

PERTH is starting to look very very attractive .

I mean ...It's only on the complete other side of the PLANET !
Feb 29, 2020, 10:05 PM
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Scary for everyone ............................

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Mar 01, 2020, 02:08 AM
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One point about all this hysteria: if this is really about Amazon and Google and co wanting the airspace to deliver pizzas and whatever else, it seems to me that will never work. It will certainly never work without accidents. I.e. drone accidents will continue - and maybe even get worse - with a bunch of companies flying drones around. I just don't see it happening. Gotta' be too complex to organize all that airspace. And Amazon drones can have failing motors, ESCs, lipos etc too.
Mar 01, 2020, 07:13 AM
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Well then , As many delivery trucks that visit my rural neighborhood EVERY day, I can see a “ crowded sky “ with delivery drones … !!!

And all it will take is a few drones falling out of the sky killing a few hundred people that our misguided government will take another knee-jerk reaction…

Guys, I don’t want to get "political “ ( not here eh ? ) but the current administration has no clue of our activities and is merely pandering ( as usual ) to the “ Big Money “ … yet again !!!

Remember that when you’re VOTING !!!

Now then , I live just a few miles from a Major JAN military base , with Billion dollar jets flying low over my house all the time … Perish the thought of a pizza drone taking out one of those !!!
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Mar 01, 2020, 07:49 PM
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Back a few years ago when all this silliness began, the minister of transport when revealing the new rules for drones on national TV ended his dissertation in saying "if you see anyone out there doing anything wrong, phone 911"!

Talk about brain dead politicians!!

Shortly after that a cop showed up locally when a kid was out flying an Ember at night under the street lights at the end of a cul-de-sac.
An astronaut... he is an ex-astronaut. You would think he would be smarter than that, but nope. That insane crap started when a porter airlines pilot screwed up on approach to the Toronto island airport. He was at 20,000 feet above lake ontario, about 20km from the shore. He claimed to see a "drone" in his flight path, and evaded, injuring both flight attendents in the process. I personally think he made a mistake, panicked, and blamed "drones" after the fact as a scape goat. That seems to be a standard move in general aviation these days; a drone made me do it.

MAAC has been the absolute worst the whole time; they're just interested in keeping their monopoly on clubs, with zero interest in protecting the hobby. It's all about their clubs, with zero representation of the hobby they claim to represent.

I was away from this forum for the last few years because I was racing quads. Even as a MAAC member, the sport is dead in Canada at this point if you want to be legal. The rules are insane. I'm coming back to Foamies, because my kids want to fly now, and foamies are the easiest way to be sub 250, and teach them to fly.

I blame box stores, and DJI, mainly, for the bulk of the issues that have landed us at this point. Morons buying phantoms, and then with no clue how to safely operate them, do stupid things. Like fly at airports. Or over their neighors pool down the road. You couple that with the governing bodies, AMA and MAAC, not actually representing the hobby, but representing their clubs only, and you get where we are now. It's upsetting, and sad.


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