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Feb 18, 2020, 12:11 PM
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Hobbyzone Champ - Equivalent


Hello,

I've been flying the Hobbyzone Champ RTF for years. The first one was my first r/c aircraft, and after many hours and many repairs, it had enough. The 2nd was a flyaway; got too cocky, went too high and out of range/carried away by the wind. I've been successful with the third for a while now again.

Unfortunately, the area where I live is very built up and for the foreseeable future I'm limited to a small rectangular field of approx. 210 x 130'. I had the Champ S+ for a brief period, but it was a bit too tight of an area even for that one and I gave it away. I could handle it okay, but what I'm really looking for is something else very simple/slow/relatively lazy flying like the Champ RTF, for some variety, that I can just relax and enjoy. Can I get some suggestions?

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Feb 18, 2020, 12:26 PM
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The Night Vapor will work in a very small space , but only when there is no wind . In most places , the best chance for no wind is at sun-up .



https://www.activepowersports.com/pa...saAqkPEALw_wcB
Last edited by balsa or carbon; Feb 18, 2020 at 12:49 PM.
Feb 18, 2020, 12:31 PM
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In my opinion , the most important factor for flying in small spaces is slow flight .... not necessarily small size .

If you enjoy building things , another option is to build your own plane . When you build your own plane , you can make it as slow as you want ( low wing loading ) . Here is a video of a plane I've built with extremely low wing loading :




Lightweight 40" wingspan FT Old Fogey-ish (2 min 58 sec)
Feb 18, 2020, 02:22 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions. I've looked into the night vapor, and it does seem like it needs extremely calm winds. Seems like some of the older parkzone aircraft would be perfect, too, if they weren't so hard to find. Happy to hear from anyone else with ideas, or other forums/threads to point me to.
Feb 18, 2020, 02:58 PM
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Another way to fly slowly is to fly high-alpha/harrier ( with the nose up ) , but that takes precise throttle control . Many 3D planes , flat deltas and pizza box type planes are capable of high-alpha/harrier flight .




Big Slow Delta 2014 02 17 (3 min 5 sec)




If you live in the USA , I might be able to hook you up with a pizza box style plane .... if you are interested .
Feb 18, 2020, 04:04 PM
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I found the UMX T28 to work well in that size field. I don't think they are available new anymore, you'll need to watch the classifieds
Feb 18, 2020, 07:39 PM
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Thanks, very helpful. I'll focus more on the slow flyers vs the small size. And yes, the T28 -- that looks great! Will check out some videos.
Feb 18, 2020, 09:54 PM
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Take a look at the Sport Cub S. It splits the difference between the original Champ and the Champ S+ as far as size and features, and it flies slowly very well.

My personal favorite slow flyer is the UMX PT-17. It doesn't like much wind, but it's a joy to fly in calm conditions.
Feb 19, 2020, 07:47 AM
Sure, I can fly after sunset!?
Check out the UMX planes.

https://www.rcgroups.com/micro-ready-to-fly-420/

Look at planes that people fly indoors.

Some of my favorite UMX planes:
Flyzone Albatross
Flyzone DR1
Flyzone Neuport
Hobbyzone Duet

These are all older discontinued models which I’ve flown for years, indoor or outdoors with little wind.
Last edited by mybad; Feb 19, 2020 at 07:53 AM.
Feb 20, 2020, 10:27 PM
pull up -- PULL UP!!!
Bit of a different animal...but it flies in significant wind and there are YouTubes of it flying in a living room. Pretty versatile. UMX Ultrix
Feb 29, 2020, 07:25 AM
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This Piper Acro seems to have been designed for you.

Look at the video at bottom of page :

http:// https://www.guixmodel.fr/modelisme/avions/debutant/piper-acro-890mm-epp-detail
Mar 01, 2020, 06:52 PM
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This is RTF with Futaba radio

https://www.motionrc.com/products/xk...M2&racv=1&fp=1


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