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Nov 19, 2019, 12:32 AM
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Hmmm....better check that guy out close Greg. I don't think the V2 70" Extra was released for sale until sometime around 11/12/2019. Back door sales?
I know it wasn't released for sale until last week but it was 100% a EF 70 inch extra V2. There are some that get out there for testing and feedback. Nothing shady going on. Kind of like how Jeff has had a muscle bype for a long time now.
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Nov 19, 2019, 11:47 AM
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Ahh gotcha, thanks Sideslip. I'm the farthest thing from a 3D pilot that there could possibly be....think chalk and cheese lol. But I really want to learn advanced flying/aerobatic skills and my car is not that big so this new offering from EF really caught my attention

I read that Zach from EF was putting a DLE 20cc engine in one and then saw on the web that EF was suggesting a DA 35cc...that's almost twice the capacity so it will be very interested to see Zach's results. But hey there is no rush as Canadian winters aren't exactly short.

I'll lurk away and learn from you guys and ask a few questions here and there.
The weight on this plane tho.. they are saying 10.5 as the heavy one. I had a Aeroworks 74" Edge that was 14.5 pounds with a DLE30 in it. plenty of power to fly but it always flew heavy to me. a 70" 10.5 i understand there is less wing there but still. with a DLE20 or os 22 or whatever in that range i would guess would fly very well plus with the lesser motor the weight could/would/should be less. I am excited to see some guys get them and get them flying. I have a 35 and 27% plane, i like something smaller that would fit in my trailer either together ( hate taking planes apart ) or would fit in my Every day blazer with wings off. Right now have to drive a full size van or pull the trailer to fly either gasser.
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Nov 19, 2019, 07:10 PM
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The weight on this plane tho.. they are saying 10.5 as the heavy one. I had a 74" Edge that was 14.5 pounds with a DLE30 in it. plenty of power to fly but it always flew heavy to me. a 70" 10.5 i understand there is less wing there but still. with a DLE20 or os 22 or whatever in that range i would guess would fly very well plus with the lesser motor the weight could/would/should be less. I am excited to see some guys get them and get them flying. I have a 35 and 27% plane, i like something smaller that would fit in my trailer either together ( hate taking planes apart ) or would fit in my Every day blazer with wings off. Right now have to drive a full size van or pull the trailer to fly either gasser.
3DHS or EF 74Ē Edge? I havenít had the EF version, but I donít think my 3DHS version was anywhere near 14.5 pounds.
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Nov 19, 2019, 07:18 PM
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3DHS V1 74" Edge was 10.66 lbs with the heavy A60 Hacker on 12S 3300mAh.
Nov 19, 2019, 07:20 PM
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3DHS or EF 74Ē Edge? I havenít had the EF version, but I donít think my 3DHS version was anywhere near 14.5 pounds.
I had the 74" 3DHS Edge with an OS33; it was just a fuzz over 10# with no fuel. I'm really curious to see if this new 70" Edge can be built at 9lbs with a DLE20. My DLE 20 spins a 17x6 Xoar woodie at 8500rpm; it pulls my 8.5lb 65" profile out of a hover, but it's no rocket. You guys that have that nice, thick low elevation air probably could get away with 9-9.5lbs on a 20cc gasser, but it would be a slug at my 5000' elevation. As noted by dhooks, an OS22 is a bit stronger, and I've actually heard good things about using a Falcon 17x6.5 carbon prop on the DLE20, so a little experimenting on this plane would be interesting
Nov 19, 2019, 08:03 PM
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I had the 74" 3DHS Edge with an OS33; it was just a fuzz over 10# with no fuel. I'm really curious to see if this new 70" Edge can be built at 9lbs with a DLE20. My DLE 20 spins a 17x6 Xoar woodie at 8500rpm; it pulls my 8.5lb 65" profile out of a hover, but it's no rocket. You guys that have that nice, thick low elevation air probably could get away with 9-9.5lbs on a 20cc gasser, but it would be a slug at my 5000' elevation. As noted by dhooks, an OS22 is a bit stronger, and I've actually heard good things about using a Falcon 17x6.5 carbon prop on the DLE20, so a little experimenting on this plane would be interesting
Your one of those profile guys huh?

I know they will pull a 18x6 very well, which is probably a better choice on this size plane.


An os definitely needs a muffler change though .

To bad there isn't a quality 2x cc engine that isn't rail mount
Nov 19, 2019, 08:23 PM
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I’m at 3500’ would a DA 35 be overkill?
Nov 19, 2019, 08:39 PM
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Your one of those profile guys huh?


An os definitely needs a muffler change though .
BCP? Actually, I really LIKE the way the OS pitts mufflers sound--they're WAY quieter than normal "diverters" , but they are restrictive...
Nov 20, 2019, 02:25 AM
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BCP? Actually, I really LIKE the way the OS pitts mufflers sound--they're WAY quieter than normal "diverters" , but they are restrictive...

I ran one for a while an yes it was quiet but it struggled on 17x7 an very little pulled out on an 8lb plane. I've also flow one on an 8.5 lb plane that had great power. But it was an aftermarket open chamber muffler.

A bcp would probably wake it up even more. Stock muffler is also very heavy
Nov 20, 2019, 08:59 PM
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3DHS or EF 74Ē Edge? I havenít had the EF version, but I donít think my 3DHS version was anywhere near 14.5 pounds.
sorry i edited my post mine was a old Aero works'
Nov 20, 2019, 10:41 PM
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For me, the bottom line here is that the original 70" was a well liked airframe that a few of us thought was just slightly under powered with a 6S setup. Now that most of us have been flying 12S packs in 10.7 to 11.5 pounds for a while now and to get a 12S crack at the 70 EXP is a gift, IMO. It's a very nice size and stood up pretty evenly against the 78" (78" x 76").

I'm going to try to get one soon, put a 12S setup in it and try a 19x10 and a 20x8 on it and make a decision. With the 74" Edge, the 20x8 was a lot of fun and I could very well end up there again.

The V1 was 88 ounces out of the box so 10.53 lbs with something like the DM4330-216, a Castle Edge HV80, 2x 6S 3300mAh batts, a 2S 2100mAh Rx battery, and 4x 62g Savox SC-1268. This is a 3100W setup with super strong 347 oz-in on 7.4v servos. Save 61g by going with s BEC Pro instead of the 2S battery and still save 21g by adding the U-Guard or Pulse Ultra Defender as a backup.

If the new 70" is lighter, then great. But I'm fine with 10.5 lbs.
Nov 26, 2019, 01:42 PM
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I have been out of the electric 3D world for a while now- anybody have a motor suggestion if I were to run 8s? Thanks.
Nov 26, 2019, 04:18 PM
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Nov 26, 2019, 04:57 PM
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Nov 26, 2019, 05:06 PM
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Chris,

That looks like with dinogy 3700s at 507g each I'd be adding just about 2.25 pounds. With other associated stuff like a 1500mah lipo for the Rx, I'd be just over 10.5 pounds AUW. Which servos do you have in yours?

The video SupaTim posted looks like it has great pull out from hover and fantastic speed. I'd like to know what you think of using the 20X8 prop with the Xpwr 30 for flying like Tim does?


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