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Aug 24, 2019, 08:13 AM
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Basic 90mm Mirage kit from Aliexpress


QT Mirage 2000 kit for 90mm . Kind of looks like HSD product. Not sure of what type of foam but the HSD 90mm F86 I just received is EPO.
Looks more scale than the FlyFly. It is also a single seater which would be easy to convert to the Kafir.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...46472e0eGqAMiE
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Aug 24, 2019, 04:51 PM
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This kit does look very nice and scale, probably the same as FNRC has been posting test flight videos.

quote: Main Specifications for Mirage 2000 90mm RC EDF jet aircraft model white color DIY:
Material: EPO
Wingspan: 950mm
Length: 1400mm
Fly weight: 700g
Motor: 90mm EDF with motor (not included)
ESC: 100A-150A Brushless ESC (not included)
Servos: 9g servo X 4 pcs (not included)
Charger: 6s Balance Charger (not included)
Radio Control: 2.4Ghz 7 channel multi-functional RC (not included)
Li-Po Battery: 22.2V 6S 4200-6000mAh (not included)
Aug 24, 2019, 04:56 PM
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This HSD Mirage has a slightly larger wingspan than Freewing Mirage. No wonder pilots in Taiwan testflew with 70mm EDF setup:
90mm 幻象2000 使用70mm 2210KV動力爽飛 (3 min 7 sec)
Aug 24, 2019, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by edwen303
This kit does look very nice and scale, probably the same as FNRC has been posting test flight videos.

quote: Main Specifications for Mirage 2000 90mm RC EDF jet aircraft model white color DIY:
Material: EPO
Wingspan: 950mm
Length: 1400mm
Fly weight: 700g
Motor: 90mm EDF with motor (not included)
ESC: 100A-150A Brushless ESC (not included)
Servos: 9g servo X 4 pcs (not included)
Charger: 6s Balance Charger (not included)
Radio Control: 2.4Ghz 7 channel multi-functional RC (not included)
Li-Po Battery: 22.2V 6S 4200-6000mAh (not included)

Are you kidding?
Fly weight 700gr ? Impossible? Could be
Only weight of foam airframe :-)

Also the Freewing Mirage 80mm retracts
Could be nice for this mirage.
Better yet the retracts of Freewing Avanti
80mm For grass operations :-)


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Aug 24, 2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by flylow2011
Are you kidding?
Fly weight 700gr ? Impossible? Could be
Only weight of foam airframe :-)

Also the Freewing Mirage 80mm retracts
Could be nice for this mirage.
Better yet the retracts of Freewing Avanti
80mm For grass operations :-)


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We all know that 700 g is probably the weight of the EPO parts lol... Hey Aliexpress/HSD is not alone, motionrc stated the Freewing F-15 90mm has flying weight of 3080g (actually this is the weight WITHOUT battery), a difference between a pigeon and a pig in terms of performance.
Aug 24, 2019, 05:24 PM
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It has very big compartment for battery and
Other things and the wings have 2 spars.
Nice kit :-)


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Aug 24, 2019, 05:28 PM
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Agreed.


700gr is a fantasy.

And. $90 for foam, and $60 to ship it over makes a mighty expensive venture. Assuming the divots in the wings and vertical tail are for lights....do they include them? Or even the covers?

Let us know how it goes. Until then, the FlyFly is still a more likeable alternative.
Aug 24, 2019, 05:32 PM
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Might be the same as we talked about from FNRC: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...5-90mm-EDF-Jet
Aug 24, 2019, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PikeStaff
700gr is a fantasy.

And. $90 for foam, and $60 to ship it over makes a mighty expensive venture. Assuming the divots in the wings and vertical tail are for lights....do they include them? Or even the covers?

Let us know how it goes. Until then, the FlyFly is still a more likeable alternative.
Flyfly Mirage from generalhobby is about $120, plus shipping, will require a lot of work to make scale. This HSD sounds like a good deal, perhaps still a little too much compared to the more complex HSD F-86 90mm kit.
Aug 24, 2019, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PikeStaff
700gr is a fantasy.

And. $90 for foam, and $60 to ship it over makes a mighty expensive venture. Assuming the divots in the wings and vertical tail are for lights....do they include them? Or even the covers?

Let us know how it goes. Until then, the FlyFly is still a more likeable alternative.
As much as I like my Fly fly version I do think this one has some advantages. Price delivered is not much different. Obviously most RCG foam posters prefer PNP so this won't get much interest but I hope we see more of this size and type of kit.
I would like to know more about it especially what type of foam it is.
Aug 24, 2019, 05:39 PM
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For this Mirage the Avanti 80mm retracts and
struts Seem to be a good fit for grass ops
:-)

I love the 2000 C model ( single seat ) much
More than that Flyfly 2 seat Mirage 2000


Also the Flyfly 2000 is about the same price
$90 kit + $60 Shipping. Roughly the same price.
:-)

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Aug 24, 2019, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by flylow2011
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Also the Flyfly 2000 is about the same price
$90 kit + $60 Shipping. Roughly the same price.
:-)

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$112 + shipping for FF Mirage. Very tempting to get this airframe. Love the look of Mirage single seater.

Delta with high swept angle do fly kind of twitchier than normal layout. Having If this bird is built not too much heavier than Freewing Mirage, it would fly better.
Aug 24, 2019, 06:02 PM
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Also the late FMS Platinum 80mm fan
Is great for this Mirage...
Also at aliexpress :-) ( save shipping )
2100 kv, 25V, 98A, 3500gr of thrust.


Hey they tested with constant voltage 25v.
Kind of cheating.
Expect less Amp draw, less thrust with 6S lipo.
:-)
Aug 24, 2019, 06:04 PM
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Sorry duplicate
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Aug 24, 2019, 06:07 PM
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Better yet, take all the electronics, fan and landing gear out of your old and tired Avanti’s to put in here.


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