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Jul 11, 2019, 09:53 AM
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Russia Russia Russia
Jul 11, 2019, 09:53 AM
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^^^^not a true statement ^^^^^
There was no collusion. You need to accept that. Even your party leaders have moved on from the subject. If course top democrats like Fienstein had told you that for 2 years but you refused to listen.
Jul 11, 2019, 10:01 AM
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There was no collusion. You need to accept that. Even your party leaders have moved on from the subject. If course top democrats like Fienstein had told you that for 2 years but you refused to listen.
You must be confusing me for someone who believes Barr’s spin rather than the actual report. Lol.
Jul 11, 2019, 10:05 AM
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IIR, Mueller concluded that a conspiracy between Trump and Russian could not be established in part because of lies that were told to his investigators. He didn't make any judgments on collusion.
Jul 11, 2019, 10:13 AM
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You must be confusing me for someone who believes Barr’s spin rather than the actual report. Lol.
The report did not find there was collusion/conspiracy. It did not say it took place.
Jul 11, 2019, 10:15 AM
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The report did not find there was collusion/conspiracy. It did not say it took place.
But, but, if they couldn't PROVE the it didn't take place, then it must have taken place.
Jul 11, 2019, 10:19 AM
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IIR, Mueller concluded that a conspiracy between Trump and Russian could not be established in part because of lies that were told to his investigators. He didn't make any judgments on collusion.
He did not make a judgement on obstruction. He did on conspiracy/collusion. He could not show that it ever took place.

This is very clear and straight from the report.

"... the investigation did not find that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in it's election interference activities."

That means there was "NO" Russia collusion.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...er-Report.html
Jul 11, 2019, 10:28 AM
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Only that they couldn't prove it conclusively, and still doesn't do squat to discount the load of undisclosed Russian contacts over a dozen tRumpettes felt compelled to lie about.
Jul 11, 2019, 10:31 AM
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Only that they couldn't prove it conclusively, and still doesn't do squat to discount the load of undisclosed Russian contacts over a dozen tRumpettes felt compelled to lie about.
So after 2 years, hundreds of witnesses, thousands of interviews and millions of documents they couldn't find collusion took place but you're convinced it did anyway.

Geesh.
Jul 11, 2019, 10:36 AM
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So after 2 years, hundreds of witnesses, thousands of interviews and millions of documents they couldn't find collusion took place but you're convinced it did anyway.

Geesh.
Guilty until proven innocent
Jul 11, 2019, 10:37 AM
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So after 2 years, hundreds of witnesses, thousands of interviews and millions of documents they couldn't find collusion took place but you're convinced it did anyway.

Geesh.
People with nothing to hide don't lie. You defend .
Jul 11, 2019, 11:39 AM
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People with nothing to hide don't lie. You defend .
You keep telling yourself that. I'm sure you will find the collusion that no one else could.
Jul 11, 2019, 01:48 PM
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So after 2 years, hundreds of witnesses, thousands of interviews and millions of documents they couldn't find collusion took place but you're convinced it did anyway.

Geesh.
Their countless lies about Russian contacts saw to that
Jul 11, 2019, 01:55 PM
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He did not make a judgement on obstruction. He did on conspiracy/collusion. He could not show that it ever took place.

This is very clear and straight from the report.

"... the investigation did not find that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in it's election interference activities."

That means there was "NO" Russia collusion.
Hummm, why don’t you post the ENTIRE quote.
Jul 11, 2019, 01:57 PM
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This shows many examples or the trump campaigns connections with Russians. In addition it highlights the obstruction that occurred during the investigation.

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One qualification before proceeding to the analysis in Part II: a significant amount of relevant information was unavailable to Mueller due to four factors. First, as the Report states, “several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office,” and “those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference.” Second, President Trump’s interference in the investigation also appears to have stymied the investigation. A key example is Paul Manafort’s failure to cooperate with the Special Counsel because he was apparently led to believe that President Trump would pardon him. Third, some individuals used encrypted communications or deleted their communications. Fourth, some of the individuals who “cooperated” with the investigation (e.g., Steve Bannon) appear to have been deceptive or not fully forthcoming in their dealings with the Special Counsel.
https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/g...-on-collusion/

By the way, the DOJ said Steele was credible


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