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Jun 28, 2019, 12:25 AM
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Heinkel He-162 A-2 "Salamander" by RBC 90mm


I've had this kit for a while, and now finally found (hopefully) some evening time to dig a bit more into the building

The kit is made by RBC, here's a link to his page :

https://www.rbckits.com/shop/he162-volksjager.html

https://www.rc-builder.com/collectio...162-volksjager

https://www.facenook.com/pg/rbckits/photos/

I got mine a while ago from this US distributor :

https://fanjetsusa.com/product/rbc-h...nder-90mm-kit/

and others sell it as well incl. WeMoTec :

https://shop.wemotec.com/navi.php?a=250&lang=eng

https://shop.wemotec.com/navi.php?h=5&Sortierung=4&af=0

https://modellbau-peters.de/impeller...lksjaeger.html

https://www.turbines-rc.com/en/42-je...turer-rbc_kits

Included is a nice full size plan, a lot of balsa, cnc cut parts, a nice canopy and some vacuformed styrene parts.

Also, since it's not another F-xx or A-xx EDF there's probably a good chance that Freewing will not come out with one in the near future !

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Jun 28, 2019, 12:25 AM
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The model is designed for a 90mm fan, mine most likely will have a WeMoTec Evo 90 / HET inrunner and YEP (YGE clone) esc on 6S.

I might try the new 90mm FMS fan in it at some point as well, with an inrunner motor though...

The model will be built LIGHT in order to give it good flying qualities.

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Jun 28, 2019, 12:26 AM
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In 1945 the Heinkel He-162 became the first operational single-engine jet fighter in the world.

When I was in Berlin recently, I took a whole bunch of pictures of one of the few remaining originals (Werknummer 120076).

https://sdtb.de/museum-of-technology/623/

Interestingly (and most appropriately here ) the original airframe was made mostly out of wood, with rather poor quality glue.

It's operational history is described here for ex. :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_162

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_162

with a max speed of Mach 0.77 achieved at 6000m.

The model has a wingspan of around 110cm and a length of about 150cm, whereas the full size has a ws of 7.2m and a length of 9.05m, giving an approximate scale of ~ 6.3 .

Here is the impression of the He 162 flown by Captain Eric Brown from "Wings of the Luftwaffe"

...the aircraft had excellent directional snaking characteristics making it a good gun platform. From this aspect it was the best jet fighter of it's time, and I was certainly in a position to judge, having flown every jet aircraft then in existence. A check on the rate of roll at 400 mph revealed the highest that I had ever experienced outside of the realm of hydraulically-powered ailerons, and the stick force demanded to produce these exhilarating gyrations was delightfully light. Leveling off at 12,000 feet I settled down to another spell of the pleasures of the phenomenal roll rate of this delightful little aeroplane ... I had never met better flying controls ... Even if somewhat underpowered it had a good performance - it could certainly have run rings around the contemporary Meteor. I was to fly the little aeroplane quite frequently.


Also :

... Nicknamed the “Salamander,” the wooden He 162 was so light, at only four thousand pounds empty (the Me-262, which had more powerful engines, weighed twice as much empty), that it actually proved to be the fastest operational jet fighter in World War II, with a maximum speed of 562 miles per hour at high altitude.

The fastest fighter, period, in the conflict was the rocket-powered Me 163 Komet, which could attain 596 miles per hour — but it only had fuel for seven minutes of flight time, and was known for spontaneously exploding. The Salamander was better, with a range of 370 miles, but that still only amounted to 30 minutes’ endurance.,


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Heinkel He 162 (The People's Fighter) Hitler's last-ditch wonder weapon (4 min 6 sec)


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Jun 28, 2019, 12:27 AM
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I had the FVK He-162 Salamander (all molded) designed for 69mm WeMoTec Minifan & Hacker B40 inrunner.

The wings were a light balsa-fiberglass sandwich hollow molded and painted in the mold, the fuselage was ultralight fiberglass, with again a very nicely done gelcoating.

The German FVK company was mostly making high performance fully molded gliders at the time, the website was www.fvk.de ...

And this was many years before cmp and hobbyking gave "molded" and "composite" a very bad name, by use of their heavy cheap junk polyester resins.

The FVK He-162 was a really nice design, and flew really well, once setup properly :

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...-by-FVK&pp=100

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...der-FVK&pp=100

Very fast too with little power (minimal ducting due to the nacelle). Youtube video N_sCZS9X3ks

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Jun 28, 2019, 12:36 AM
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It took me a few evenings just to take out and carefully catalog all the parts, see which goes where. There are a lot of cnc cut parts, and stringers !

These are divided, and labelled, according to four main units : wing, nacelle, fuselage and tail group.

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Jun 28, 2019, 12:53 AM
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There's a set of photo instructions included with the kit (a pdf file) which is quite intelligible ... Which parts are needed where needs to be sorted out with some patience.

I have almost finished the wing, will post more pictures later ...

I am trying to use mostly user-friendly water based glues (pva) and paints (wb acrylics) - and limit the use of ca and its noxious fumes to only where it's absolutely essential.

Note that the pva glues below (elmers, titebond) have been chosen because they are sandable ... some are not (like the outdoor ones).

Note also the cap replacements, using a nice much finer tip.

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Jun 28, 2019, 01:02 AM
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Here's a few pictures of the finished RBC product I could find on the internet :

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Jun 28, 2019, 01:13 AM
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One issue I will have to contend with at some point is what retracts & more importantly struts to use.

The plan is to find a set of Freewing retracts, struts and wheels that will fit this project. It seems that there are a few that should fit just right without too much work ... I also prefer trailing link as the work so much better in a model that's made to fly ...

It would be rather pointless to build such a large model and then let it sit around because of the lack of a solid, reliable landing gear that can take up the wear and tear of flying all year long ...

RBC suggests the following 51x43 retract units x 3 ( HK28979 SKU#225000020 ) :

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/servoles...ount-2pcs.html

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/servoles...3mm-mount.html

Main struts ( SKU#344000062-0 ) :

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-...140mm-2pc.html

He also suggests these 95mm wheels for the mains :

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/scale-al...-3-75inch.html

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/light-fo...idth-20mm.html

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2pcs-Model-...sAAOSw44BYS6yO

and a 65mm diam front wheel such as this one :

https://www.ebay.com/itm/One-Pair-2-...EAAOSwdGFYrxe-

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Jun 28, 2019, 09:27 AM
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Very cool! Looking forward to see the build.
Jun 28, 2019, 09:49 AM
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Signed on Herb. I picked up one of these kits earlier this year so your thread is timely.

Looking forward to seeing you work your magic.

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Jun 28, 2019, 10:46 AM
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I am in also...Have one sitting on the stack of to build....
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Jun 28, 2019, 11:28 AM
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Thanks ! Looking forward to your input !

Christian Abeln is building one too, so it will be interesting to compare notes ...

http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showt...162-Salamander
Jun 28, 2019, 08:44 PM
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Nice model. It looks quite scale. Fun to see others building salamanders here.
Jun 29, 2019, 01:05 PM
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Some small progress yesterday evening

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