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May 13, 2019, 09:42 PM
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Hi fellow rc pilots & rc enthusiasts

SJRC F11 vs ZLRC SG906 Beast review Which is better? In this comparison review of these two popular low cost, GPS, 5G WiFi FPV Quadcopter drones, I cover all the features including range & camera performance tests with video & picture samples. I also conclude with which one I think is better & why.

SJRC F11 vs SG906 Beast review - Which is better? (36 min 38 sec)
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Old May 15, 2019, 10:58 AM
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May 15, 2019, 01:51 PM
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Boy if that is not a scam, I don't know what is.
May 15, 2019, 09:58 PM
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Hi fellow rc pilots & rc enthusiasts

ZLRC SG906 Beast review. Range test review of this ZLRC SG906 Beast & SJRC F11 review range test of wifi fpv. After my SG906 Beast vs SJRC F11 comparison review, I do another wifi fpv range test without a 5.8ghz vtx onboard to see if there is a difference in the result,...and there is.

ZLRC SG906 Beast review - Range test of wifi fpv, distance & altitude + SJRC F11 wifi fpv comparison (21 min 11 sec)
May 16, 2019, 12:36 AM
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Boy if that is not a scam, I don't know what is.
Yep.

And the scam is apparently revealed in the Return Policy.

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Buyers can receive a partial refund, and keep the item(s) if they are not as described...

May 18, 2019, 01:29 AM
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Scathing Review


ZLRC Beast is a 4K drone with GPS for less that $150 (8 min 54 sec)


I particularly rely on Half Chrome reviews because they tend to base their final recommendation on camera-performance (oddly enough ) for camera drones. They have experience with much of the competition so their side-by-side comparisons are informative. In this case, the lack of onboard DVR seemed to influence the thoroughness of the review. Perhaps that was warranted, but he didn't read the manual and may have missed the EIS setting (although he said in the comments that he tried it, but didn't see a difference), as well as other flight mode particulars.

I'm convinced that EIS is operative (from the videos online), but I've been vocal concerning its effectiveness on the Beast. The App-based flight modes may be sub-par but those would surely be improved/perfected through free updates if the Beast were a good seller. Those are both fixable. But the lack of onboard DVR has killed this thread, will kill sales, and may sink the company.
Last edited by wingsfromheaven; May 18, 2019 at 03:24 AM. Reason: Half Chrome comment on EIS from YouTube
May 18, 2019, 01:45 AM
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I would accept clear, sharp [email protected] and maybe [email protected] IF the image was good simply because it is really only an entry level AP quad...

It's quite weird that they decided to not include a dvr...
They could probably do a higher framerate at 720p using the current sensor/processor, but not significantly so with EIS enabled since that involves a full 2k scan -- which is currently limited to 20fps. I could be satisfied with 720p @20fps if the EIS was effective and they added an onboard DVR / microSD slot.

To me, the only point of buying a 2019, brushless, GPS, camera drone at this price-point is for the modern portability (foldable), the motorized 1-axis gimbal and EIS. VPS is a bonus (visual-flow and sonic sensors). And the App-based flight modes are virtually free because they reduce the complexity of the remote-controller. Otherwise, we have plenty of relatively clear, sharp, shaky, fixed cameras in the older MJX Bugs series/clones. Astonishingly, it was the Ryze Tello that came along and taught us that we don’t have to put up with jittery, fish-eye distorted video any longer in the $85+ camera drone market.

The Beast and other new brushless foldables have taught us that easily-replaceable AIO modules are the wave of the future in the sub-$200 GPS, camera-drone market. That’s huge for manufactures since upgrades don’t involve the drone-platform itself. The AIO module on the Beast includes the camera, gimbal, video-EIS processor, VTx, antennas, and visual flow system. That’s ingenious!

Imagine how easily a manufacturer can now distinguish their products by features and price with various, plug-n-play, AIO modules.
  • They could add an onboard DVR / microSD slot to the AIO module for $15

  • They could fix the EIS with a simple firmware App-software update for $0

  • They could fix the fish-eye distortion with a different lens (78 to 90 degrees max) or through post-processing App software for $0

  • They could add manual shutter to combat jello with a firmware update for $0
    UPDATE: They have apparently reduced jello (rolling-shutter) through an update!

  • They could combat jello with a faster sensor (higher bitrate, 2k but [email protected] with EIS) for $15

  • They could add a sonic sensor and second optical flow camera for $10

  • They could add a USB tether or HDMI-out to the remote-controller to eliminate WiFi interference with your phone/tablet, and thereby increase control/FPV range for $10

An upgraded Beast could fetch $185 with one battery (plus $50 more for 2 additional batteries and case). Any higher base-price would bump into the 2-axis gimbal drones such as the CFly Dream and JJRC X9. Not to mention the more perfected $240 Fimi A3. So the entry-level, brushless, GPS, camera-drone market is challenging. But I think plug-n-play AIO modules [could potentially (edit)] make it quite interesting going forward.
Last edited by wingsfromheaven; May 20, 2019 at 06:35 PM. Reason: EIS revelations by t00nz843z (aka Quadcopter101)
May 18, 2019, 06:44 AM
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I have yet to see one of the (cheaper quad) manufacturers bringing out another camera pod for their quad; so far that hasn't happened and I think the chances are slim that it will. IMO they can better focus on bringing out a good/great 1080p camera (preferably with effective EIS) from the start, than trying to jump on the 4K train (which of course looks great stated on the box) but only doing so half-hearted with low frame rate (low bitrate too probably) and no EIS. Just plain stupid that they left out on-board recording for the Beast, which on its own is already a big NONO for me.

A quad like the Beast (or the Bugs 2W or 5W), with a camera-pod with the internals of the Onepaa X2000 (which has very effective EIS at 2K!) would be a winner imo, especially if you could remotely tilt the camera. But one can dream
May 18, 2019, 09:36 AM
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Sound price sesitive, I got this wholesale site from my Chinese friend. 2019 Mavic Air with 4K camera is $42.71 each (when you buy 10units)
at HDgate.com and sell out 9 units at eBay - see below:
https://www.dhgate.com/product/2019-...arl|0773900539

or If you only want to buy one unit, see below site; but, the price is $119.75.
https://www.dhgate.com/product/dji-m...arl|2006971849

or you may find out some different 4K camera model at HDgate.com.
Quit posting this nonsense. Your a shill. Somebody ban this account.
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May 18, 2019, 11:00 AM
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May 18, 2019, 11:13 AM
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A quad like the Beast (or the Bugs 2W or 5W), with a camera-pod with the internals of the Onepaa X2000 (which has very effective EIS at 2K!) would be a winner imo, especially if you could remotely tilt the camera. But one can dream
That's certainly the goal!! But I'm not sure that's possible for under $200, since that would normally involve a decent-framerate 4k sensor. So far, none in this category have achieved 720p HD with effective EIS, much less 1080p FHD/2k, so I continue to shame their novel efforts by mentioning the Tello.

But 'they' are not the target audience for these discussions. If they are listening, then great, because they might save themselves from demise. I'm simply trying to inform would-be buyers that until-and-unless these 2019 foldable, GPS, cameras drones can match or exceed the Tello's camera performance, then these drones are simply an unworthy novelty.

DIY solutions involving the Onepaa X2000 cost as much as the Fimi A3, and still don't have the gimbal action -- as you've mentioned. So if these companies do what they have always done, by ignoring their own genius (of plug-n-play AIO pods), then they should all go out of business due to lackluster sales. I just don't think they understand how boxed-in they are these days in terms of price-performance. It's a new reality that they didn't face when the DJI Spark and Parrot Bebop 2 were the only competition. RCG readers should steer clear unless they already own an EIS action cam like the Onepaa X2000 or Mobius Mini, or unless they simply don't care about even quasi-cinematic AP.

I, for one, would buy a few of these new drones as gifts if they could only match the potential camera-performance (EIS & fov) of the Tello while adding the requisite onboard DVR. But one can dream
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May 20, 2019, 09:24 AM
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Quadcopter 101 review of the Beast:

ZLRC Beast SG906 Folding Long Flying Brushless GPS Drone Flight Test Review (50 min 11 sec)
May 20, 2019, 10:05 AM
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ZLRC Beast SG906 4K/1080p Folding Long Flying Brushless GPS Drone Flight Test Review


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Quadcopter 101 review of the Beast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GHRJR9fRvA
And here are my thoughts on the SG906

Pros
- Large folding drone with GPS and optical flow hover capability.
- Electronic video stabilization using your phone's processor via the Hfun Plus app.
- Includes very nice carrying case with strap for transporting the drone, controller, and accessories.
- GPS/GLONASS provides accurate positioning of the drone. Also enables true return to home and landing capability on command, lost transmitter signal, and low battery.
- Advanced flight modes of GPS follow me and circle position works very well.
- Available with 1080p or 4K/2K video camera. 2K/4K version records video in 2K, and still photos in 4K resolution.
- Also includes 720p HD belly camera for optical flow hovering, or for video recording looking directly down.
- Good FPV range of close to 300 meters.
- Camera lens can be tilted up or down remotely using the provided transmitter/controller.
- In flight video can be viewed and recorded to your smartphone using the "Hfun Plus" app available on Google Play here http://bit.ly/HfunPlus and iTunes here http://bit.ly/Hfun-Plus. App also provides advanced flight and video processing capabilities.
- 7.4V 2800mah battery provides average flight time of about 20 minutes per charge. Available with optional bundled 1, 2 or 3 batteries.

Cons
- Lots of on screen lag (delayed video). The advanced features and video stabilization heavily task your phone's processor, causing this slowdown. Older/slower phones may aggravate this lag. Lag can be reduced if using a phone with better processing capability.
- Very slow to regain FPV reception if the drone is flown out of WiFi signal range (about 300 meters). When I did such in the video, I activated return to home, and the signal was not regained until after the drone flew back and completed its landing.
- Uses 802.11ac WiFi. Unfortunately not all phones have this type of WiFi. Before considering purchase, first verify that your phone is indeed 802.11ac WiFi capable, or you may be very disappointed.
- No SD card. Video and photos are recorded directly to your phone via 802.11ac WiFi. Expect usual video frame dropping if the WiFi signal gets weak.
- Battery protection tab on the front of the battery must be removed before inserting battery. Otherwise you may encounter difficulty fully inserting the battery into the drone.
- Optical flow feature can not be manually selected. It is only activated if the GPS system does not have sufficient satellites to maintain hover position.
- I could not get advanced features of optical tracking, gesture control, or waypoints to work. But this again may be a problem of using my older phone.
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May 20, 2019, 10:12 AM
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Good flying quadcopter, but jeez, how bad is that video lag? A lot of people won't realise this, and get into all sorts of trouble, especially when they're a bit further away. Not regaining the video after losing video-connection is also just asking for problems.

BTW QC101: did you try the little, vertical grey bar on the left side of the screen? Does that move the camera up and down?
May 20, 2019, 10:22 AM
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Good flying quadcopter, but jeez, how bad is that video lag? A lot of people won't realise this, and get into all sorts of trouble, especially when they're a bit further away. Not regaining the video after losing video-connection is also just asking for problems.

BTW QC101: did you try the little, vertical grey bar on the left side of the screen? Does that move the camera up and down?
Yep, the lag is extreme, especially if the video stabilization is turned on. And yes, the grey bar on the side is for lowering or raising the camera lens when flying with the phone as controller.


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