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Mar 21, 2019, 02:39 PM
Lipoly Killer
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No receive yet. Contacted manufacturer in Lithuania and was told cut this week, ship next week. Probably another month before receipt.
I ordered and received a Skylark S from Value Hobbies. Pretty nice little foam pattern ship.
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Mar 26, 2019, 07:01 AM
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Hi Ken,
I finally have an answer regarding the Japanese 1600 class pattern. The response is from the Japanese judge at the last F3A WC who just returned from judging F3P in Greece:
Many are flying 70 size pattern models in Japan. Because very handy to handle and cost is lower than full size.
Average age of over 50, 60 years old flying this type of airplane and almost non young is flying RC model any more.
They fly “we call sports man”
Here is the list of maneuvers flown:
1) take-off
2) square loop (U)
3) 1/2 reverse cuban 8 (T)
4) 3 rolls (D)
5) Stall turn (T)
6) 2 inside loops (U)
7) 1/2 square loop, 1/2 roll (T)
8) 2 outside loops (from top) (D)
9) split S (T)
10) cobra roll (U)
11) landing
Mar 26, 2019, 11:42 AM
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No mention of any weight limits I take it. That would simplify things. Just put a plane in the air without worry of "details"!

One thing that bothers me, NOT just about the "70" class planes but all the smaller planes The are listed by different class. 30, 50, 70, 110/120, etc. Just what to those numbers reference to? Seems to me the "70" class planes at 62" need at least a 90 (YS) or 100/120 normal four stroke.

Mar 26, 2019, 01:12 PM
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Hi Ken,
That is why YS continued to develop their small 4-stroke (53 to 63 to 70 to 80) and the 80 is now available in a DZ format. I have flown a '70' sized ARF with a YS 70, OS 110 Alpha and an OS Hanno Special. Performance was about the same, but probably ideal with the YS 70 (or better with a YS 80).
Mar 26, 2019, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kenh3497
Seems to me the "70" class planes at 62" need at least a 90 (YS) or 100/120 normal four stroke.
In the 62" AJ Acuity thread an all-up weight with E-power was given as 7lb 3oz in post #471. Since glow power is seldom heavier than electric it is reasonable to assume a similar weight for a glow powered model. A YS 90/110/115 would be huge power in a 7lb model and even a strong 2 stroke 60 would be lots for the lower classes.

Mar 31, 2019, 05:34 PM
Lipoly Killer
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Received word from RC Composites that my Europa has shipped. They sent a PDF copy of the manual. The Europa is, of course, a jigsaw puzzle to assemble. Fibreglass cowl and canopy with plywood and balsa construction. This is not a beginner's kit by no means. The construction is all laser cut with plug in wing and stab. Shipped, it was 233 euros. Stay tuned!
Apr 08, 2019, 03:57 PM
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It's here!

One month ,exactly, from the date of order, my kit arrived today. I am very impressed with the quality of this kit. As soon as I can, I will provide pictures.
Jun 05, 2019, 02:04 AM
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i think this is a great idea, i think sportsman and advanced should be dedicated to these size models...
give you a graduation into full fize F3A, and you can do it for less than a grand. that's awesome!
might help get more people into it.
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Oct 16, 2019, 07:15 AM
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Hey Frank,
any progress on the Europa Pro mini kit?
Oct 16, 2019, 07:21 PM
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The instructions are just some pictures. I dont trust myself building this one . My good friend, Norm Whittle, who is a master builder could build it but he is in Utah and I am in MS.

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