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Jan 08, 2019, 01:07 AM
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Here is one that has been sitting for many years and I am finally doing the finishing touches. Would like help in identifying model and MFg. I believe it is from the 60's or 70's. Balsa fuse and foam core wing. 64 inch wing, 53 inch length .
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Bob
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Jan 08, 2019, 01:11 AM
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Compensator ....probably by Southern RC
Jan 08, 2019, 04:49 AM
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Compensator ....probably by Southern RC
Compensator is correct, although not sure about it being from Southern RC since those had epoxyglass fuselages. I dont remember them making a Compensator kit with a balsa fuse, but I may be wrong... from plans maybe?
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Jan 08, 2019, 08:52 AM
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Southern RC “built up” balsa fuse Compensators. I had one NIB until last year when I gave it to my long time friend/mentor/instructor. He is currently flying it. Yes, this is a Compensator. Good looking one at that. They fly well.
Jan 08, 2019, 11:29 AM
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Thanks everyone, for your help. Unfortunately, much hangar rash on this. I hope to be able to patch and blend repairs and keep it as original as possible.
The wing has cutouts for retracts, but my robards dont match . It appears that a plastic ,molded, gear mount has been epoxied into the wing core. Does anyone know what gear might have been planned during this build ?
Jan 08, 2019, 11:33 AM
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That is the box for B&D gear
Jan 08, 2019, 01:26 PM
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Here is the Outerzone deposited plan for the Southern R/C Products kit of the Compensator
https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=10234

The plane was a construction article in Model Airplane News by Rhett Miller III in January, 1974 and Outerzone includes a bit of that article...… some further bits from the article is that the root airfoil thickness is 16% and the tip airfoil is 14% and Rhett used a ST .60 bluehead, saying his models ended up between 7.75lbs and 8 lbs. The plan has a table of control throws.

The construction article model had a foam core stab and hollowed out balsa canopy while my stashed Southern R/C Products kit has a balsa built up stab and a plastic canopy.

Michael in Ontario, Canada
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Jan 08, 2019, 01:59 PM
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Correct, That's a B&D retract wing box.
Jan 08, 2019, 03:17 PM
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BTW Bob (duradad)... a little trivia... Rhett Miller, the designer of the Compensator, won the USA Nationals with it four years in a row, from 1973 to 1976. So its not only attractive and flies well, but it has pedigree...
Jan 08, 2019, 08:15 PM
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There is also some lineage between the Compensator, The Deception, and the Bootlegger. I believe they share the same or similar airfoil.
Jan 08, 2019, 08:57 PM
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BTW Bob (duradad)... a little trivia... Rhett Miller, the designer of the Compensator, won the USA Nationals with it four years in a row, from 1973 to 1976. So its not only attractive and flies well, but it has pedigree...
Yes, I am really looking forward to getting this ship completed and flying. I have a real passion for revisiting the models of the past. I started in RC in 1964. Never got into pattern. But this ship is definitely exciting to have.
Jan 09, 2019, 01:37 AM
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In the ‘70s Rhett and his Compensator were legendary. A quiet and very skilled single stick pattern flier from years ago. Had the pleasure of flying with him when I lived in Dallas in the ‘90s. Rhett was flying a Ron Chidgey designed Typhoon at the time. I’m sure you will enjoy your Compensator. Contact Leo at Ballistic Aircraft Company for information on the B&D retracts. I believe B&D may be closing their ops.
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Jan 09, 2019, 10:09 AM
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In the 70s Rhett and his Compensator were legendary. A quiet and very skilled single stick pattern flier from years ago. Had the pleasure of flying with him when I lived in Dallas in the 90s. Rhett was flying a Ron Chidgey designed Typhoon at the time. Im sure you will enjoy your Compensator. Contact Leo at Ballistic Aircraft Company for information on the B&D retracts. I believe B&D may be closing their ops.
Thanks Brad. I have contacted Leo. He confirms that a serious illness has caused B&D to shut down. I am looking for used retracts that will fit these boxes. Otherwise, I will cut out the boxes and install some air Robarts that I have.
Jan 09, 2019, 05:45 PM
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I was able to track down the original builder of this plane Tom Baffer, owner of Bruckner Hobbies and Hobby Heroes in the Bronx New York. Amazingly, not only does he recall the build 38 years ago, but He recalled many details such as the paint type and process, engine and gear that were planned.
He did confirm that this was built from a kit that he took off his hobby shop shelf. But , could recall the kit manufacturer. I forgot to ask why he never finished it
Jan 09, 2019, 09:34 PM
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I’m not aware of any other manufacturer other than Southern RC Products as far as kit production. They went out of business many years ago. They made a good line of pattern and sport aircraft kits. I have a couple of their Bobcats. They were known for kitting Rhett Miller and Ron Kidgey designed airplanes.


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