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Oct 24, 2018, 11:55 PM
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What should I build first??


Hi all, I need some advice.

I have been looking for some time trying to figure out what my first build should be. Its a very hard thing, way to many options, please help?

What I am after is a relatively simple dollar-store-foam build with beginner flight characteristics. I will have little problem on a tricky build (skill wise - I'm a practical guy) but, as I'm sure you'll understand I am eager to get in the air. Plus, I am bound to destroy this one early on when I fumble the controls

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help

Steve
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Oct 25, 2018, 12:08 AM
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Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help

Steve
This sounds like a job for balsa or carbon. Somebody cue the 007 theme.
Oct 25, 2018, 12:19 AM
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My advice from an old-newbie:

do not worry about building a good-looking plane first, build the most un-destroyable ugly thing that is dead-simple to build and easy and slow to fly.

You will destroy it. and fix it. and destroy it again, and again.

Then you will build another, and another, and so on.
Oct 25, 2018, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by snickalls
Hi all, I need some advice.

I have been looking for some time trying to figure out what my first build should be. Its a very hard thing, way to many options, please help?

What I am after is a relatively simple dollar-store-foam build with beginner flight characteristics. I will have little problem on a tricky build (skill wise - I'm a practical guy) but, as I'm sure you'll understand I am eager to get in the air. Plus, I am bound to destroy this one early on when I fumble the controls

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help

Steve
Building a disposable dollar-store-foam-airframe beginner plane is a great idea if you will be teaching yourself to fly RC .
One of the easiest airframes to make is the Super Easy .... no plans required . Here is a video of a first-time builder/flyer attempting his first flights with an SE :


RcGroups Scratchbuild "SuperEasy" maiden flight (1 min 28 sec)






Here is a later flight by the same guy with the same SE :


RcGroups "SuperEasy" scratch build short flight (1 min 10 sec)








Another plane you could build is an EzFly : it requires downloading & printing the plans , assembling the tiles , and then transferring to foam . Here's a video of one of my EzFlys :


Copy of EzFly with under-cambered wing (1 min 57 sec)





If you would like to build either one of those planes ↑ , I'll be glad to help . Both planes have a protected motor/prop if crashed nose-first .
Oct 25, 2018, 03:32 AM
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That is totally my plan! Build-destroy-build. Only way to learn right? Just need to settle on something, anything, that'll get me there.

edit:

balsa and carbon! ding, ding, ding......EzFly wins by a land slide looks great and seems nice and slow and stable. I'm about to poke around for plans but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.

edit #2:

you know what? Stuff it! I'm going with the SuperEasy. I give zero f's what it looks like the whole point is to get in the air as fast as possible. there is plenty of time to build better looking planes in the future.

Thanks for the advice Balsa and Carbon.
Last edited by snickalls; Oct 25, 2018 at 04:05 AM.
Oct 25, 2018, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by snickalls
That is totally my plan! Build-destroy-build. Only way to learn right? Just need to settle on something, anything, that'll get me there.

edit:

balsa and carbon! ding, ding, ding......EzFly wins by a land slide looks great and seems nice and slow and stable. I'm about to poke around for plans but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.

edit #2:

you know what? Stuff it! I'm going with the SuperEasy. I give zero f's what it looks like the whole point is to get in the air as fast as possible. there is plenty of time to build better looking planes in the future.

Thanks for the advice Balsa and Carbon.
Here are the quick "n" easy instructions for building an SE :
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...4&postcount=10

Here are more detailed step by step instructions :
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...E-instructions

If you need further assistance , let me know .... I'll be glad to help !

Please post the results here in this thread , with video if possible .
Oct 25, 2018, 12:15 PM
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Do you already have a transmitter/receiver & other RC airplane components ? If not , let me know where in the world ( USA , Europe , Australia , etc ? ) you live so I can make recommendations .
Oct 25, 2018, 04:29 PM
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Do you already have a transmitter/receiver & other RC airplane components ? If not , let me know where in the world ( USA , Europe , Australia , etc ? ) you live so I can make recommendations .
Hi I'm in New Zealand. I was about to order a FlySky i6 from Aliexpress for now and upgrade later when things get more serious. Any advice on receiver type??
Oct 25, 2018, 05:49 PM
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Hi I'm in New Zealand. I was about to order a FlySky i6 from Aliexpress for now and upgrade later when things get more serious. Any advice on receiver type??
The FlySky i6 is a fine full featured transmitter and can last you many years and has memory for up to 20 aircraft . For an airplane , get the FS-iA6 receiver ... not the iA6B receiver ( for quadcopters) .

If you need to get lipo batteries/charger , motor/ESC & servos , you can probably get it all from HobbyKing Australia in one order . They have the same radio ( rebranded Turnigy ) : https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-...er-mode-2.html

This is the motor I recommend for the SE : https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hextroni...er-1700kv.html

you'll need a 7x4 prop : https://hobbyking.com/en_us/gws-styl...-ccw-5pcs.html

a 12A ESC with BEC : https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbykin...ontroller.html

and two 9 gram metal gear servos : https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigyt...-08sec-9g.html

this battery will give you good power and a flyable CG : https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-...lipo-pack.html

you'll need a plug to connect the battery to the ESC : https://hobbyking.com/en_us/male-jst...10pcs-bag.html

and connectors to connect the motor to the ESC : https://hobbyking.com/en_us/2mm-gold...rs-20pc-1.html



If you don't want to shop at HobbyKing , look for equivalent components at the online store of your choice . Another option besides Aliexpress is Banggood .
Oct 25, 2018, 06:35 PM
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Balsa and Carbon you are the best.

Thanks for all that work it is a huge help. I will post progress for sure. Will be some weeks though. My wife and I give each other $30 a week pocket money! lame I know but better than $0. Everything takes time.
Oct 25, 2018, 07:32 PM
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Balsa and Carbon you are the best.

Thanks for all that work it is a huge help. I will post progress for sure. Will be some weeks though. My wife and I give each other $30 a week pocket money! lame I know but better than $0. Everything takes time.
OK , keep us posted .

Where you live : do you know an experienced RC airplane flyer who can help you , or are you doing this completely on your own ?

If possible , practice on an RC airplane simulator . Some RC hobby shops have demo sims in their shop that you can try . Or there are free sims for PC . Or there are free sim apps for touchscreen devices , I have this one on my iPhone :


Electric RC Sim Lite - Flight Simulator (Free App) - iOS iPhone and iPad (4 min 43 sec)
Oct 25, 2018, 09:08 PM
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All alone that was until I signed up here yesterday. Wow, I sucked so bad at that app. Truly horrific. Getting the hang of it now though. Huge and necessary help
Oct 25, 2018, 09:29 PM
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All alone that was until I signed up here yesterday. Wow, I sucked so bad at that app. Truly horrific. Getting the hang of it now though. Huge and necessary help
On the sim , don't forget to back off on the throttle after taking off from the ground ..... fly around with just enough throttle to keep the plane in the air . Then practice making left/right turns with as little banking as possible .... all stick movements should be small . Loops , rolls and other stunts will come later !

If the sim you are using has the throttle on the left stick , then you'll want to order a "mode 2" transmitter ( throttle on the left stick ) .
Last edited by balsa or carbon; Oct 25, 2018 at 10:37 PM.
Oct 25, 2018, 10:48 PM
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Forget all that ,

This is where you want to go ...
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=620

Last edited by birdofplay; Oct 26, 2018 at 10:17 AM.
Oct 25, 2018, 10:52 PM
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This is as easy as i have EVER seen! You can make it out of dollar tree foam and i believe there are only 4 parts. You can build a new one quicker than you can repair one.

If not this I have to agree with the above from birdofplay


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