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Dec 11, 2019, 08:09 PM
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Dec 11, 2019, 08:19 PM
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Too soon for a Mavic 3 thread?
Not if you have some hard proof that there will be one....
Dec 11, 2019, 10:35 PM
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I was looking at the skydio 2 and remembered this video from 2015

DJI - Phantom X Concept (3 min 22 sec)


I'm a long time dji enthusiasts. they predicted it correctly but dropped the ball in the race to accomplish this before the competition did.

Not looking to stir the pot. Just amazed how they got it right and did it wrong at the same time.

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Dec 12, 2019, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pete7feet
I was looking at the skydio 2 and remembered this video from 2015

https://youtu.be/ec1EF2UaQ4U

I'm a long time dji enthusiasts. they predicted it correctly but dropped the ball in the race to accomplish this before the competition did.

Not looking to stir the pot. Just amazed how they got it right and did it wrong at the same time.

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Try looking at it from another stand point. They test marketed with that video, They have produced around that idea with O/A as have many other companies. The conclusion? People don't use it. It's not for the fact that O/A doesn't have it's uses or that what has been produced so far isn't up to snuff as many videos show that it indeed works and saves many aircraft. It's just that market isn't at least perceived to be by at least DJI to be any significant impact to sales. Look at the newer $400 market..which DJI just marketed to..people just don't want O/A or at least don't "need" it (that's a argument for newbies though)

Those that want a top of the line all around aircraft already have it, it is going to take a stellar aircraft to break those holds and as yet nobody has put it out there. Shortcomings of any aircraft are highlighted, what one or one group might want the next group doesn't need or use..you can't please everyone. Have no doubt though, DJI has the resources to do as they want to further advancement to the extreme they think the main public will adopt...I don't think anyone would question that. Had they wanted to produce a SkyDio type aircraft they would have done it after the first V1 of said. And they will do it cheaper and better, that has always been DJI..corner the market..allow the rest to either grab scraps or reinvent the wheel, yet many have tried...none have done it...sad for us as consumers unfortunately.

One would be in the ludicrous sector of thinking if DJI thought, hasn't adopted, isn't sitting on a aircraft capable of doing what was at least in that promo video. They probably have a glimpse now and then the new SkyDio, but as we have seen now with just the latest true reviews SkyDio has a lot of hype and it's not all magic as some thought it might be, at least at this point. Their marketing prowess may have baffled 10's of thousands, their past proceeds them, who knows? They have alot to shoot for and now with the first series of their product hitting the streets, and in the hands of real users it's getting the litmus test. What they do now is either going to excel them into the market...or shoot them in the foot....and they only have one left...from that last release IMHO.
Dec 12, 2019, 09:42 AM
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Try looking at it from another stand point. They test marketed with that video, They have produced around that idea with O/A as have many other companies. The conclusion? People don't use it. It's not for the fact that O/A doesn't have it's uses or that what has been produced so far isn't up to snuff as many videos show that it indeed works and saves many aircraft. It's just that market isn't at least perceived to be by at least DJI to be any significant impact to sales. Look at the newer $400 market..which DJI just marketed to..people just don't want O/A or at least don't "need" it (that's a argument for newbies though)



Those that want a top of the line all around aircraft already have it, it is going to take a stellar aircraft to break those holds and as yet nobody has put it out there. Shortcomings of any aircraft are highlighted, what one or one group might want the next group doesn't need or use..you can't please everyone. Have no doubt though, DJI has the resources to do as they want to further advancement to the extreme they think the main public will adopt...I don't think anyone would question that. Had they wanted to produce a SkyDio type aircraft they would have done it after the first V1 of said. And they will do it cheaper and better, that has always been DJI..corner the market..allow the rest to either grab scraps or reinvent the wheel, yet many have tried...none have done it...sad for us as consumers unfortunately.



One would be in the ludicrous sector of thinking if DJI thought, hasn't adopted, isn't sitting on a aircraft capable of doing what was at least in that promo video. They probably have a glimpse now and then the new SkyDio, but as we have seen now with just the latest true reviews SkyDio has a lot of hype and it's not all magic as some thought it might be, at least at this point. Their marketing prowess may have baffled 10's of thousands, their past proceeds them, who knows? They have alot to shoot for and now with the first series of their product hitting the streets, and in the hands of real users it's getting the litmus test. What they do now is either going to excel them into the market...or shoot them in the foot....and they only have one left...from that last release IMHO.
You have a lot of valid points. I think OA will be adopted if it becomes dependable at all times. And yes dji is the sole company that can provide that. But how it works on the mavic 2 is a rescue feature not a video feature if you know what I'm trying to say ( I'm dutch) so hopefully they will one day in the future

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Dec 12, 2019, 10:32 AM
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You have a lot of valid points. I think OA will be adopted if it becomes dependable at all times. And yes dji is the sole company that can provide that. But how it works on the mavic 2 is a rescue feature not a video feature if you know what I'm trying to say ( I'm dutch) so hopefully they will one day in the future

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Do you remember this from 3+ years ago? The tech was always there and SkyDio aren't the first to give it a go, nor do I believe they have it right either (Or that they can't "Fix" it). I'm not bedazzled by credentials btw, I have seen many instances of tech and hardware not up to snuff by MIT engineers. Case in point was their entry into the famed "BattleBots" show here in the USA. They got taken out by "Farmer John" who built his entry in a garage with no background in such (okay a bit of a exaggeration but yeah). But anyhow..just pointing out that Yuneec tried it to beat what DJI had. Didn't sell, but still showing what is and was capable...same kind of marketing....how soon people forget DJI then upped to now 360 O/A...people still turn it off for many reasons...it's a marketing thing and a users thing.

Remember now who DJI has ties with...Intel???? Hmmm... seems Intel did it first at that level 3 years ago...who has the most experience with Drone Swarms??? Yeap, Intel... Put the number one Drone company in allegiance with the number one in all else Automation with drones and who do you think will come out on top if they so choose? Not my first Rodeo watching this advancing market and technology. MIT Battlebots, JFYI = 1 win...4 losses: https://battlebots.com/robot/overhaul/

Yuneec Typhoon H test Intel RealSense (1 min 16 sec)
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Dec 12, 2019, 10:39 AM
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Do you remember this from 3+ years ago? The tech was always there and SkyDio aren't the first to give it a go, nor do I believe they have it right either (Or that they can't "Fix" it). I'm not bedazzled by credentials btw, I have seen many instances of tech and hardware not up to snuff by MIT engineers. Case in point was their entry into the famed "BattleBots" show here in the USA. They got taken out by "Farmer John" who built his entry in a garage with no background in such (okay a bit of a exaggeration but yeah). But anyhow..just pointing out that Yuneec tried it to beat what DJI had. Didn't sell, but still showing what is and was capable...same kind of marketing....how soon people forget



Remember now who DJI has ties with...Intel???? Hmmm... seems Intel did it first at that level 3 years ago...who has the most experience with Drone Swarms??? Yeap, Intel... Put the number one Drone company in allegiance with the number one in all else Automation with drones and who do you think will come out on top if they so choose? Not my first Rodeo watching this advancing market and technology.



https://youtu.be/aGCTOvGRNkQ
Maybe it's just wishful thinking from me. I have a user for an almost autonomous drone which will follow an object anywhere without losing it or crashing for that matter. I like to take video from vintage cars and could shoot in many more places if such a drone one day woulf exist.

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Dec 12, 2019, 10:46 AM
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Maybe it's just wishful thinking from me. I have a user for an almost autonomous drone which will follow an object anywhere without losing it or crashing for that matter. I like to take video from vintage cars and could shoot in many more places if such a drone one day woulf exist.

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Your day is coming, but by then a Vintage car could be a 1983 Ford Escort I wouldn't take any drone anywhere near vintage cars O/A or not. YMMV I would stick with Professional Pilot/ co-op team to be doing that type of footage. Till then:

GoPro HERO7 X Johnny FPV - DRIFT (6 min 49 sec)
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Dec 12, 2019, 10:47 AM
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Your day is coming, but by then a Vintage car could be a 1983 Ford Escort


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Dec 12, 2019, 12:14 PM
Not crashing = Not flying!
Skydio crashes are gonna be EPIC!
Dec 12, 2019, 12:58 PM
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Skydio crashes are gonna be EPIC!
Not for the owners. Here comes the criers for that "Crash Proof Warranty" and those who didn't see the small print out clause.
Dec 12, 2019, 03:02 PM
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Not for the owners. Here comes the criers for that "Crash Proof Warranty" and those who didn't see the small print out clause.
I just think with this much O/A when it DOES run into something, it will be worth watching lol.
Rooting for the Skydio, hope it does well.
Dec 12, 2019, 03:17 PM
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I just think with this much O/A when it DOES run into something, it will be worth watching lol.
Rooting for the Skydio, hope it does well.
I think you would be hard pressed to get this thing to crash, but like already commented it can only do so much. Small branches and cables it is just going to hit now and then, the reason it doesn't in quite a few of the videos I have seen isn't that it sees the small stuff it's because it sees the bigger stuff and "knows" to avoid that stuff with a certain degree of area, quite sure it "knows" a tree and larger branches and then knows to hit the breaks and analyze from there. It is remarkable to todays standard thus far, Let those who wish to "explode" their new purchase into such obstacles have their fun...it's only money.
Dec 14, 2019, 05:15 PM
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Is it a safe way to transport?


I have a Mavic Mini fly more combo, with three batteries and the multi-battery charger. Is it safe to transport and store the batteries inside the charger? That leaves more room in the new shoulder bag I got for it, to store cables and accessories.
Dec 14, 2019, 06:18 PM
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I have a Mavic Mini fly more combo, with three batteries and the multi-battery charger. Is it safe to transport and store the batteries inside the charger? That leaves more room in the new shoulder bag I got for it, to store cables and accessories.
Wrong thread but yeah, it's fine, I keep my batts in that charger all the time in the case.


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