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Jun 23, 2019, 11:59 PM
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Yeah, if you have another $650 just layin around.
You also are then limited to the always crappier Android version of GO 4, this one made specifically for the SC, as you cannot install the standard Android version, and will never be able to run the iOS version. DJI has a bad history with the CrystalSky Android tablets and all the built-in 5.5Ē CrystalSky screens on the P4P+ and P4A+. They are always the last to get updates and were buggy as heck from day 1. The SC screen size is also half the size of a 9.7Ē iPad, which sells for less than half the price of the SC. Screen brightness is highly overrated! Get a hood, or throw a black cloth over your head, or just find some shade!
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Jun 24, 2019, 05:47 AM
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Small suggestion to anyone using the SC with HDMI out, manually select 1080p HDMI output if you hook it up to a 4K monitor/TV, It will lag the heck out of the smart controller. Ocusync 2.0 picture at best is 1080p so you wont be missing much.

The SC SoC seems a little under-powered on the GPU.
What output options does the SC actually have?

Could the choice of cable also be contributing to the lag?
Jun 24, 2019, 08:43 AM
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Having a hard time getting started with the M2P. First I tried the Samsung tab S 2 with no luck . So I read on line where many people were using the Samsung tab A. So I connected up and it worked great for about the first 4 flights. Now, when I select record video, the go 4 app shuts down, using the Tab A. Is any one using the Samsung tab A with success. I really don't want to fork out another 5 or 6 hundred dollars for another tablet. I don't want to use a phone, too small and Im too old to see little objects. I replaced ap several times. I replaced M2p software. I contacted DJI and they said they can't troubleshoot until I used an approved viewing device. After reviewing their device list, even the Ipad has to have an IOS of 10.0.2 or higher (REALLY) You cant buy anything used that has that qualification. so frustrating.
I've used Android phones and Tablets for years and have liked them, as far as any of the DJI apps go save yourself a lot of problem by getting a dedicated IOS tablet for your DJI drones.
Jun 24, 2019, 09:00 AM
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I've used Android phones and Tablets for years and have liked them, as far as any of the DJI apps go save yourself a lot of problem by getting a dedicated IOS tablet for your DJI drones.
As a Android and tablet/phone daily user, unfortunately I can attest to this. When the Inspire1 and P3 series debuted I followed development of the Apps and users. So when I ordered a P3P I bit the bullet (Much to my dismay) and bought Apple. I have since upgraded to keep with the increasing power demand of the App with another Apple for DJI use only. I know there are many happy Android users that have devices that work fine for them, but like you say, get a good iPad and all problems are solved. I don't like it anymore than others but they just plain work and their eco system is much less likely to cause issues. They also have a much higher resell level, so the initial investment kinda levels everything out...just my 2 cents on it as well.
Jun 24, 2019, 09:46 AM
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So far I like the SC , less to plug in, really bright and simple, fits in the travel case. Could be a little bigger but it's quite ergonomic. Not sure I'd upgrade to one but since I was in the market for a new drone the package with reduced cost made it more palatable to me. Crazy good drone, damm
Jun 24, 2019, 10:55 AM
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Interesting article in the New York Times today ....


“Chinese Drones Made in America: One Company’s Plan to Win Over Trump


By Cecilia Kang
June 24, 2019

WASHINGTON — DJI, the large Chinese drone maker, is facing mounting security concerns within the Trump administration that its flying machines could send sensitive surveillance data back to China. Now, the company is trying to get on American officials’ good side by building a new product in the United States.

The company, which is privately held, said on Monday that it would repurpose a warehouse in Cerritos, Calif., to assemble a new version of a drone that has been popular among federal and local government agencies. The assembly of its flying devices in the United States will represent a small percentage of DJI’s overall global production. But it could help the company meet some necessary federal requirements.

In addition, the company is building the new machine, called the Mavic 2 Enterprise Dual, so that it can save data it collects only on the drone itself, and can be taken off the machine only after it lands. The machine cannot transfer any of the information wirelessly online.

The new production facility and the drone’s data features, the company hopes, will be enough to allow the new product to be sold in the United States. About 70 percent of all drones in the country are supplied by DJI, according to one estimate. The company makes small drones for hobbyists as well as the higher-end industrial grade drones used to survey remote areas and forest fires, among other uses.


The announcement comes as President Trump prepares to meet with President Xi Jinping of China this week for trade talks that have put Chinese and American tech companies in the cross hairs of a prolonged and punishing battle over trade and a race for technology leadership.

The White House has said that the telecommunications giant Huawei and other Chinese technology companies have the ability to spy and steal commercial and government secrets, posing a security threat to the United States. Those concerns have bled into the trade and economic war with China, sending chills across the global technology industry.

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Shenzhen-based DJI, or Da Jiang Innovations Science and Technology, is the latest Chinese technology company scrambling to retain its ability to sell to the United States.

Huawei was put on an exports blacklist last month. Last week, the Commerce Department put five more Chinese businesses on its “entity list,” which restricts the companies from purchasing American goods. Getting on the list can be a crippling blow for many makers of products like smartphones and wireless networks because they use global supply chains to gather all the necessary parts.


DJI has not been put on the administration’s export blacklist. But starting in late 2017, it became the focus of government scrutiny after American customs and immigration officials raised concerns that the drones, with cameras, mapping technology and infrared scanners, could be used to collect sensitive data and send it back to the Chinese government. Last month, the Department of Homeland Security issued a warning expressing those same concerns about Chinese-made drones.
DJI executives reject the claims that its products post security vulnerabilities.

“We are getting caught up in geopolitical issues of the day,” Mario Rebello, vice president of DJI’s North American operations, said in an interview. “There is a lot of fear and hype, and a lot of it is not true and misleading.”

By assembling 60 percent of the new drone in the United States, DJI said it would be able to file for certification that its devices meet requirements of the Trade Agreement Act. The law requires that government agencies can purchase some products only if they are made in the United States.

DJI’s government customers have largely been using waivers to circumvent the trade law. Mr. Rebello said the company believed that it was now more likely to be blocked from selling to government agencies without certification that its products complied with the law.


DJI’s compliance with the law should give its customers greater comfort with security and safety of the machine, Mr. Rebello said. The new drone, meant for emergency responders, filmmakers and industrial inspections, is capable of carrying heavier cameras and other payload. It will be priced at up to $4,000.

The Cerritos plant was previously used by DJI to store drones for distribution. The assembly operations will bring in some highly skilled workers to put the drones together but is not expected to have a major effect on jobs.

“We are going to be more proactive to make sure we are saying as much information as possible,” Mr. Rebello said. “We’ve planned to invest in America but right now the time is right.”

Last month, however, Mr. Trump said, “If we made a deal, I can imagine Huawei being included in some form of, some part of a trade deal.”

Chinese officials have pushed back against the United States restrictions on Chinese companies. The Chinese government threatened Microsoft and Dell and Samsung of South Korea that it would face dire consequences if they cooperated with the recent export ban.

The Chinese government also said it was assembling its own blacklist of “unreliable” companies that would have trouble operating in the Chinese market.”


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Jun 24, 2019, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DWA
Interesting article in the New York Times today ....


ďChinese Drones Made in America: One Companyís Plan to Win Over Trump


By Cecilia Kang
June 24, 2019

WASHINGTON ó DJI, the large Chinese drone maker, is facing mounting security concerns within the Trump administration that its flying machines could send sensitive surveillance data back to China. Now, the company is trying to get on American officialsí good side by building a new product in the United States....

Dave
Thanks Dave.

I remember when the "company line" regarding real or even perceived data collection was that "everyone does it and it's fine. Put on your tin hat."

Oopsy...maybe there are consequences.
Jun 24, 2019, 04:54 PM
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Thanks Dave.

I remember when the "company line" regarding real or even perceived data collection was that "everyone does it and it's fine. Put on your tin hat."

Oopsy...maybe there are consequences.
Yeah I agree to a point. I think this is one of the opening salvoĎs of DJI trying to avoid some very real consequences.
I donít think this is about national security. This is really operating on a bigger scale, more political

But hey what do I know Iím just a little guy trying to make it in a big world.


Dave
Jun 24, 2019, 05:07 PM
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I cannot seen to get my win7 pc to load the driver to load for access to the smart controller via usb. Any tricks ??
Last edited by Mr.frankenjet; Jun 24, 2019 at 05:34 PM.
Jun 24, 2019, 06:03 PM
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Iím looking for a crystal sky mount that I can switch between my Inspire 2 and my Mavic 2.

Currently Iím using the standard DJI mount on my I2 and a polar pro on my M2. Does anyone have a mount where I can switch between the two. As it stands now I have to unscrew the bracket and put the screws back in in order to switch between the two aircraft?

As you can see from this picture.

Thanks
Dave
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Jun 24, 2019, 06:57 PM
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DJI CS Remote control bracket.


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Originally Posted by DWA
Iím looking for a crystal sky mount that I can switch between my Inspire 2 and my Mavic 2.

Currently Iím using the standard DJI mount on my I2 and a polar pro on my M2. Does anyone have a mount where I can switch between the two. As it stands now I have to unscrew the bracket and put the screws back in in order to switch between the two aircraft?

As you can see from this picture.

Thanks
Dave
Iíve got a DJI remote control bracket for the crystal sky listed on craigslist at the moment. I also have a 3-D bracket so it can be converted for use with a Mavic pro remote controller. If youíre interested shoot me a PM.

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Jun 24, 2019, 07:18 PM
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Jun 25, 2019, 01:24 AM
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What output options does the SC actually have?

Could the choice of cable also be contributing to the lag?
I saw 4k30 offered, I believe it goes all the way to 4k60? Unlikely to be cable as I use it on other devices without issue. To be clear the device itself was lagging, not just the TV.
Jun 25, 2019, 01:42 PM
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You also are then limited to the always crappier Android version of GO 4, this one made specifically for the SC, as you cannot install the standard Android version, and will never be able to run the iOS version. DJI has a bad history with the CrystalSky Android tablets and all the built-in 5.5” CrystalSky screens on the P4P+ and P4A+. They are always the last to get updates and were buggy as heck from day 1. The SC screen size is also half the size of a 9.7” iPad, which sells for less than half the price of the SC. Screen brightness is highly overrated! Get a hood, or throw a black cloth over your head, or just find some shade!
critics always find what to critic.
all i am saying - 'it just works'. nothing is crappy, it is as simple as any all in one solution, perfect for travel and hiking. use what you wish... i would never mess with combination of devices and screens ever again.
also it helps to have it updated once, then disable wifi on it and have no interference from dji updates ever again. just preload all maps you need prior to the flight.
Last edited by Utkinpol; Jun 25, 2019 at 01:49 PM.
Jun 25, 2019, 01:43 PM
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I cannot seen to get my win7 pc to load the driver to load for access to the smart controller via usb. Any tricks ??
check if you got debug mode active - disable it.

ps. i did not notice it was win7 - on win10 in debug mode you get only one device notion and no other devices - your situation is different.


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