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Jun 05, 2018, 02:38 PM
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lemon 0052 telemetry receiver and DX6G3 specifically


am starting a thread on the lemon 0052 receiver with telemetry and modulation DSMP and also compatible with DSMX and DSM2. am using it here with the DX6G3 radio. as this is a work-in-process, please check from time to time at the bottom as i may add something.
the receiver: https://www.lemon-rx.com/index.php?r...product_id=160
the radio: https://www.horizonhobby.com/dx6-6-c...ode-2-spmr6750
the thread: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...s#post39758353
when i learned that this receiver was available i got 1. as i fly electric gliders it has several items that i use so would be very convenient.
then i learned that there is a forum where they are discussed so went there. there are instructions and data about it written by John (jj604), and is being used with the radios from horizon. John has been writing instructions for several products, some of them by lemon, without being paid (he has no participation on the business of lemon). then i got a DX6G3 and began learning how to use it with the 0052 and asked for advice at the forum but i was told by a fellow (who, by the way, works for horizon and posts at that thread) not to post there as it was about the 0052 only and i should go to the DX6G3 forum. wonder why he said so. he is the least to have the right to say that, as him participating at the thread of the competition is conflict of interests. and when i went to the forum, he told me that he already answered the questions at the other forum and it has been answered many times there-but never really answered what i was asking. here we have a perfect example of contrasts: on 1 side John, who is extremely knowledgeable and polite, provides the exact answer, and if he does not know, he tells so. on the other side, a fellow that even if sometimes he has the answer, he has to rub that with very unpleasant ways, and if he does not know the answer, he never accepts that, but throws a long lecture. no wonder why so many dont dare to ask anything! problem is, that this behavior sabotages this thread, that otherwise could help many to solve their doubts about the missing data on the too short radio's manual.
so i decided to start this. here we can discuss it freely. the DX6G3 is a good radio for this purpose, but the manual is not very clear to me.
this is the forum: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...-system-thread

i posted this at the thread i started but had to close it due to the fellow picking on me again.
regarding my problems programming the radio, there is a thread where the guy explains it. https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ips-and-Tricks
in few words, he says that:
" DX6 Manual is very basic.
I feel Spektrum's manual for the DX6/DX9 is way too basic. It's almost like a "quick start guide" - only one with like 50 pages. While all the features are explained, I feel that telling people how they work is not enough. Many times throughout the book I kept asking myself, "why this?" or "why that?" Given this is an entry level computer radio, I feel I would like more information on why I would want to use a given feature, not simply have the feature explained.
Scenarios
Another good idea would be scenarios. Say for example, the manual could explain various scenarios where a certain feature could come in handy. Yes, they do here and there, but the problem is that for many of the features, they just assume you know and simply tell you how to do it, rather than also why. "

my point precisely.
why then we dont have a manual like this for this radio: https://app.box.com/s/cb3b695b7552a051d351. it explains everything and shows step by step with the picture of the screen so we can do whatever without problems?
another way to explain is with tutorials. i got 1 that explains how to program vario and altitude, that does not leave any detail out. look:
https://www.modelflying.co.uk/forums...7&p=13#2347784
>>>an update. please read this: 1 thing i learned is that the nimh batteries that can be used have to be charged with a charger that has the capability to program it properly, like an accucel 6, for instance. with it, i can get eneloop 1900 cells charged at 1.1v to 6.0v (although they drop to 5.7 later) so this way the radio lasts long enough for 2 or 3 days normal flying before need to be charged again.
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-...___store=en_us
conclusion: after evaluating at the field, i have learned that the receiver works perfect, and that the problem i have is not related to the receiver; has to do with learning to program the radio. but that is another story...

will release another post about the 0052U variation.
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Jun 10, 2018, 04:32 AM
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0052 & DX6 radio...and Denis the menis


Hello Phil.
Thanks very much for your calm straight foreward info.
Has saved me a lot of head scratching[more to go though]

Shame Denis the Menis followered you to your new thread[it could have got on a lot more with 'normal' discussions] with his cold/uppitdy comments[no feelings for the 'ordinary' people]
Thanks...Ken
Jun 10, 2018, 04:41 AM
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about human quality


thanks a lot for your comment. knowing does not mean insulting anybody; but it is a matter of human quality. too bad that we are not allowed to erase that kind of comments from threads. on the other hand, that is the good thing of having a blog, where we can. fellows like him will not be allowed to spoil it.
will keep trying to understand and solve the problems am facing. it is the great thing of having this forum and keep learning. regards.
Jun 12, 2018, 04:29 PM
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an update


eventually met a fellow who provided the exact steps, and that without lecturing me.
i dont understand why some post if are not answering and instead show the kind of people they are.
Jun 12, 2018, 08:56 PM
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eventually met a fellow who provided the exact steps, and that without lecturing me.
i dont understand why some post if are not answering and instead show the kind of people they are.
It is good that you find somebody sensile to explain the 0052.
I hope you pass some of that info on here...as I will be doing battle with mine in a couple of weeks.

Phil, these other people are unfortunally a product of our new/fast society...you have probably been out of the workforce for a long time now.
The culture of people interaction has changed dramitically with the introduction of cold-aloof-over edcuated fast talking and thinking people.
Who are very good at their jobs...but forget that most of us are not like that.
These people also find it hard to explain a problem in simple terms as well.
And grow impatient with us normal people who are nowhere near as quick to grasp the technical details...Or would take us ages to go back through the firum threads
Jun 13, 2018, 12:51 AM
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all explained


the fact is that i did not take any training in computers. am learning through these forums.
but again, the radios and devices that are sold dont specify that you have to have a masters in science of computers or the like to be able to use them.
therefore they should provide manuals for all. but they dont. and then this bunch of knowalls come to tell me that i am retarded, but dont help. and even if they really know the solution, they lack on human quality. just dont know what it is.
Jun 16, 2018, 03:03 AM
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Your update...
""Say for example, the manual could explain various scenarios where a certain feature could come in handy. Yes, they do here and there, but the problem is that for many of the features, they just assume you know and simply tell you how to do it, rather than also why. ""Unquote.

Phil, in this day and age of internet, its expected that we look it up.
Or have access to a club or experienced flyer to tell and show what it all means.
Afer you've had a couple of common modern radios...they all mostly tend to work in a simular way(with their programing)..But of course radios with a great number of channels(partically from europe) do require extra head scratching and searching the internet for answers.

Phil...might I suggest(afer reading some of your posts on forums) to be a liittle more brief and not mention things so repetivetaly(I don't mean to be offensive...just trying to help you blend in with your interations on the forums)
Jun 16, 2018, 07:26 AM
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Your update...
""Say for example, the manual could explain various scenarios where a certain feature could come in handy. Yes, they do here and there, but the problem is that for many of the features, they just assume you know and simply tell you how to do it, rather than also why. ""Unquote.

Phil, in this day and age of internet, its expected that we look it up.
Or have access to a club or experienced flyer to tell and show what it all means.
Afer you've had a couple of common modern radios...they all mostly tend to work in a simular way(with their programing)..But of course radios with a great number of channels(partically from europe) do require extra head scratching and searching the internet for answers.

Phil...might I suggest(afer reading some of your posts on forums) to be a liittle more brief and not mention things so repetivetaly(I don't mean to be offensive...just trying to help you blend in with your interations on the forums)
the 1st comment is not mine. is from the fellow that started that thread and is why i posted it. he, as i, is complaining about the shortness of 'manuals'.
and even if more are getting better training into comps, still there are many that dont, and those are left in the dark.
and about your last paragraph, i dont take it bad. i still dont see where but i would like to hear from you in detail so i may understand exactly what are you talking about? perhaps if you and me exchange comments about this privately will not add things that are not directly related to the thread.


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