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RF8 Sim - Bad Depth and Slow response to "TRIM"
Though new to this hobby, I've wanted to get involved with R/C Aircraft for years. Now, being close to retirement, I have the time and resources to commit to it. I've joined AMA and my local club MAR/C here in Redmond, WA.
As an engineer, I've probably forced myself to be more regimented than I need to be but I spent the first several weeks learning and understanding the hobby, the products and technology, resources, rules and guidelines and most of all the etiquette to follow. I just purchased RF8 simulator and learning the basics and though I have a lot of understanding of aircraft and their respective flight characteristics, I've found flying R/C aircraft is more challenging (in a fun way) than expected. I need a lot more "sim" hours before I waste anyone's time as a "Buddy" or "Trainer" but I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on a couple subjects. 1. I don't have any issues with depth perception but using the RF8 Sim, I'm finding it difficult to clearly and accurately perceive an aircraft's position if there are trees (for example) at the end of the runway. When I line up for my approach and descend to land it appears I'm over the trees but soon realize I haven't flown over them yet. I'm guessing it's as much a graphical issue as anything since I can land fine without any obstructions. Any Comments? 2. Has anyone had any issues with the "Trim" features on the RF8 Sim? I've had a lot of difficulty using that feature on all axis'. The difficulty I'm having is the trim switches don't seem to have any effect to trimming the aircraft because the aircraft doesn't seem to respond to the actions. I've even recalibrated the controller and tried again, still no response. Any Comments? |
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Here is a duplicate of my response to your same question in another thread :
In My Opinion : Sims are good for a new RC flyer to get a feel for the transmitter controls and how the plane responds to them .... but they are no substitute for actual RC flying . The best thing you can do is go out and actually fly an RC plane ! Have you purchased and flown one already ? If not , there are planes available that can easily be flown by a new RC flyer without the assistance of "buddy box trainer" . |
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Sims will always have depth perception issues.. just kinda the way the cookie crumbles.
Also, it's harder to see planes in the distance in a sim due to rendering and stuff. Basically, flying a sim is harder to see the plane than the real thing, but crashing in a sim is free. |
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I have to agree with you to some degree as far as learning real world vs. a Sim. It's always going to be better. Thanks again for your comments. |
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Thanks again for your comments. Jim |
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There have been problems with fly-aways with the Champ S+ , it's even mentioned in the manual ↓ .... so be sure you know what to do if that happens . |
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Grover, along with the basics one big take away from flying sims is to fly as if you're in the cockpit. That is you don't have to mentally remind yourself that the rudder and ailerons are backwards when the model is pointed at you. If you can mentally "fly from the pilot's seat" in the sim and it's giving you the basics of coordinating the roll function and elevators during turns so you don't noticeably dive or climb during the entry, the turn and the exit and if you can land it without pixelating the model then you've gotten your money's worth from the sim.
Just keep in mind that sims do a poor to lousy job on replicating turbulence and stalling characteristics of many models. You'll still have some learning to do with each new real model. But then if that wasn't the case then we'd all just fly sims and think we were golden, right? Welcome to the hobby! |
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Last edited by Grover54; Jan 07, 2018 at 05:40 PM.
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Any decent Video Card nowadays supports 3D. RF8 doesn't have to do anything special to make use of the feature. I fly RF8 on my Asus gaming monitor with nVidia shutter glasses and it provides a much better feel for depth of field. I also fly it with my Oculus. But the resolution on Oculus is poor compared to a 1080p gaming monitor.
The other solution - pick a RF8 flying site that doesn't have trees. |
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The "LP" in MLP6DSM stands for "Low Power" ( low range ) , and will not work for larger planes that will be flown higher and farther . If you get additional/multiple larger planes in the future , you'll need to get a full range transmitter with multiple model memory ... I recommend DX6 or higher . |
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Last edited by balsa or carbon; Jan 07, 2018 at 11:14 PM.
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I will let you know. I'm excited to fly it but I live in the Northwest and it's pretty awful weather this time of year. Soggy endless rain, dark gray skies really low ceilings. Stay tuned.
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If you have an indoor area available , you can fly indoors this time of year ... with the right plane such as a Night Vapor . Indoor flying is possible in gyms , warehouses , skating rinks , soccer arenas , church sanctuaries & large multipurpose rooms , etc. etc. Here is one of my home made planes flying inside a church sanctuary :
A plane like a Night Vapor only weighs about 17 grams , so it's almost impossible to do any damage with it . https://www.horizonhobby.com/product...r-bnf-pkzu1180 |
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