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Jan 04, 2018, 10:23 PM
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Looks like the price is competitive with the Multiplex 300, Graupner Hottrigger or the QQEdge.
I should clarify.

When I look at it I see a motor that probably sells for $35, an ESC that is $35, and servos that are $19 each. Add to that another $25 for servo extensions, spinner, and prop so about $175 .

Ultimately I have so many of those things lying around that I wouldn't want to pay for them again. Knocking that off and selling a kit version for $135 shipped would make me take a look.

So the price isn't 'WAY' out there as I initially said. In the end it is all about having fun and flying what you like.
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Jan 04, 2018, 11:40 PM
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Are there going to be other color schemes?
Stephen from Hobby King said yes to other color schemes. Did not ask for a time frame however.

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Jan 05, 2018, 02:53 AM
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I should clarify.

When I look at it I see a motor that probably sells for $35, an ESC that is $35, and servos that are $19 each. Add to that another $25 for servo extensions, spinner, and prop so about $175 .

Ultimately I have so many of those things lying around that I wouldn't want to pay for them again. Knocking that off and selling a kit version for $135 shipped would make me take a look.

So the price isn't 'WAY' out there as I initially said. In the end it is all about having fun and flying what you like.
I reckon a plane like this will fly for one or two seasons before it gets wrecked - then we are expected to buy another one with a complete set of electronics that we could have salvaged from the old one. I refuse to keep on paying for parts I already have.

In a perfect world there would always be at least two versions of a plane - an "everything included" version for beginners and a "bare minimum" version for old hands.

Its almost as if the manufacturers just want to sell us stuff without any concern for waste or the environment.
Jan 05, 2018, 11:57 AM
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I reckon a plane like this will fly for one or two seasons before it gets wrecked - then we are expected to buy another one with a complete set of electronics that we could have salvaged from the old one. I refuse to keep on paying for parts I already have.

In a perfect world there would always be at least two versions of a plane - an "everything included" version for beginners and a "bare minimum" version for old hands.

Its almost as if the manufacturers just want to sell us stuff without any concern for waste or the environment.
Hobby King has a number of aircraft that are introduced as PNP (with electronics) and later available as kit (without electronics). (The Excalibur is the first that comes to mind. ) Their bottom line is making sales. If the customers request kit options in quantity that makes them money they will offer kit options - but not perhaps at first introduction. StephenHobbyKing has already stated in another thread "there will be other versions of this Extra!! "
Jan 05, 2018, 12:49 PM
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Hobby King has a number of aircraft that are introduced as PNP (with electronics) and later available as kit (without electronics). (The Excalibur is the first that comes to mind. ) Their bottom line is making sales. If the customers request kit options in quantity that makes them money they will offer kit options - but not perhaps at first introduction. StephenHobbyKing has already stated in another thread "there will be other versions of this Extra!! "
Sounds good. I'll hang on to my money and hope for a basic kit version
Jan 05, 2018, 11:55 PM
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All these new foam planes are killing me. The markets getting saturated with them, and now that they are getting close to the cost of what it is for a balsa ARF!!!!??? For a little bit more money I can get quite bit more plane. I can get a wonderful flying and proven PA, 3DHS, or Extreme Flight plane in the same size
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Jan 06, 2018, 04:52 AM
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StephenHobbyKing has already stated in another thread "there will be other versions of this Extra!! "
More of a future thing and not anytime soon.
Jan 06, 2018, 12:15 PM
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All these new foam planes are killing me. The markets getting saturated with them, and now that they are getting close to the cost of what it is for a balsa ARF!!!!??? For a little bit more money I can get quite bit more plane. I can get a wonderful flying and proven PA, 3DHS, or Extreme Flight plane in the same size
You can get a ARF for that price but by the time you buy the servos,esc,motor your going to be triple that price. Every plane i price out i end up close to $700 or more depending on size of the plane this is a 56 inch wingspan. i fly 48" or smaller cause of cost
Jan 06, 2018, 02:02 PM
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Jan 06, 2018, 02:28 PM
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All these new foam planes are killing me. The markets getting saturated with them, and now that they are getting close to the cost of what it is for a balsa ARF!!!!??? For a little bit more money I can get quite bit more plane. I can get a wonderful flying and proven PA, 3DHS, or Extreme Flight plane in the same size
What do you consider to be ďa little bit more moneyĒ?

If Iím spending near 300$ on an ARF, Iím not going cheap on gear. Even if youíre outfitting it with cheap gear, I donít think youíd come in under 500$.

For what looks to be a really smooth flying plane, I think itís priced pretty reasonably. Some folks are looking for something thatís ready to go out of the box and this satisfies that market. Iíve built a few 3DHS planes, and while they werenít difficult, the did take some time to build properly. While they did fly well, like a previous poster here stated, all came out to just shy of 700$ with solid gear.
Jan 06, 2018, 02:40 PM
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Sorry if I rusled any feathers, I must be the only one new to the hobby that's already getting sick of the junk foam. foam to be is geat for a beginner that needs the ability for quick easy repairs, but the finish never holds up like monocote on balsa
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Jan 06, 2018, 02:47 PM
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Sorry if I rusled any feathers, I must be the only one new to the hobby that's already getting sick of the junk foam. foam to be is geat for a beginner that needs the ability for quick easy repairs, but the finish never holds up like monocote on balsa
Maybe youíve just been unlucky?

When I was flying IMAC I had a ParkZone Extra 300 that I used as a bit of a practice plane when I didnít feel like loading up the trailer. Flew surprisingly well for a foam airplane. Tracked well and had a high enough wing loading to carry through maneuvers. Flew larger than it was, if that makes sense. Wasnít really a 3D plane, but that wasnít what I was after with it. Looked great after a few years, too. Granted, I wasnít slapping it into the ground or being careless when traveling, so it wasnít subjected to much abuse.
Jan 06, 2018, 06:58 PM
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Sorry if I rusled any feathers, I must be the only one new to the hobby that's already getting sick of the junk foam. foam to be is geat for a beginner that needs the ability for quick easy repairs, but the finish never holds up like monocote on balsa
I'm with you on this one. I would rather put the money toward a nice balsa bird. If your new to the hobby and wreck often than I would think this bird has some advantages.
Jan 06, 2018, 09:16 PM
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What do you consider to be ďa little bit more moneyĒ?

If Iím spending near 300$ on an ARF, Iím not going cheap on gear. Even if youíre outfitting it with cheap gear, I donít think youíd come in under 500$.

For what looks to be a really smooth flying plane, I think itís priced pretty reasonably. Some folks are looking for something thatís ready to go out of the box and this satisfies that market. Iíve built a few 3DHS planes, and while they werenít difficult, the did take some time to build properly. While they did fly well, like a previous poster here stated, all came out to just shy of 700$ with solid gear.
I just finished my 3dhs balsa 61" build ..an extra 330 .. I'm right at about 800.00 including 2 6s batteries. So yeah around 700.00 to just build the plane.
Jan 06, 2018, 11:59 PM
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I just finished my 3dhs balsa 61" build ..an extra 330 .. I'm right at about 800.00 including 2 6s batteries. So yeah around 700.00 to just build the plane.
Super nice planes for sure ive owned a few 3dhs ones. Right now i own a EF 48" Edge 540 but building even the 60" isnt cheap


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