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The December Big Sky, Anyone can enter, Informal Contest


THE DECEMBER BIG SKY INTERNATIONAL
LONGEST DURATION CONTEST FOR ALL ELECTRIC AND HAND LAUNCHED GLIDERS THERMAL SOARING AND SLOPE SOARING RULES AND INFO:

Contest will run from 12:01 am December 1st to 11:59 PM December 31st Eastern US time. The contest is for ALL electric or hand launched gliders or airplanes of all sizes, all materials and all controls. The contest is intended to help motivate you to develop your thermal and slope soaring skills. The contest is open to all gliders, e-gliders and, if you like, e-airplanes too. If it glides, it qualifies.

In Thermal Duration, the contest is split into three classifications; 2 Meter and under E Gliders, Open E Gliders, and Hand Launch Gliders.
You can post as many times as you like using as many planes as you like, but only one will be counted per pilot per category regardless of what kind of plane you are flying. You can replace a shorter time with a longer time any point during the contest. You can fly as many flights as you like.
Goal - longest duration thermal and slope flights without use of the motor.

THE PLANES
* Any electric motor system or unpowered hand launch glider. (No winches or Hi-Starts).
* Any wing controls and any wing span
* Any construction

ELECTRIC GLIDER SOARING
1) From a fresh hand or ground launch you can run the motor for up to 30 seconds, then you turn the motor off and you can not restart it. Reclimbs are not permitted. If you restart the motor the flight time is no good.
2) Motor time starts as soon as you apply throttle. This is an LMR, Limited Motor Run contest with a pretty long motor run allowed so that the motor run itself does not provide much advantage to anyone. Many will choose to shut off the motor in less than 30 seconds. No credit for shorter motor runs.
3) Soaring time starts when the motor goes off. Either you time the whole flight and subtract the motor run or you use two watches, one to time the motor run and one to time the flight. How you do this is up to you.
4) You can time your own flight if you wish. You are on your honor. Time is truncated to the second. No fractions and no rounding. Read the seconds only.
5) Landing must be within 100 feet of the original launch location or the flight does not count. Landing must be on the ground/grass or pavement. Landing in a tree, bush, structure or other elevated spot that would not normally be a landing spot does not count. There are no other rules around the landing.
6) Time stops when the glider comes to a rest. So the clock keeps running if you clip a branch, or go to land and bounce back into the air. When the plane stops, time stops.
7) You can launch as many times as you like but each flight has to be from a fresh launch from the ground/hand. No reclimbs permitted.
8) Report your best time of the day by posting here. You can post as many times as you like, but only the best one will count. You can fly as many days as you like to work toward your best time. The goal is to achieve personal bests in the fun atmosphere of a contest.

HAND LAUNCH SOARING
1) Soaring time starts at release of the plane.
2) You can time your own flight if you wish. You are on your honor. Time is truncated to the second. No fractions and no rounding. Read the seconds only.
5) Landing must be within 100 feet of the original launch location or the flight does not count. Landing must be hand catch or on the ground/grass or pavement. Landing in a tree, bush, structure or other elevated spot that would not normally be a landing spot does not count. There are no other rules around the landing.
6) Time stops when the glider comes to a rest. So the clock keeps running if you clip a branch, or go to land and bounce back into the air. When the plane stops, time stops.
7) You can launch as many times as you like but each flight has to be from a fresh launch.
8) Report your best time of the day by posting here. You can post as many times as you like, but only the best one will count. You can fly as many days as you like to work toward your best time. The goal is to achieve personal bests in the fun atmosphere of a contest.

SLOPE SOARING
1) From a fresh hand or ground launch you can run the motor for up to 5 seconds, if you need it to get into the lift. I would expect most slope flights will have no motor run but some sites need a boost to the lift.
2) Motor time starts as soon as you apply throttle and is subtracted from the total flight time.
3) Soaring time starts when the motor goes off. Either you time the whole flight and subtract the motor run or you use two watches, one to time the motor run and one to time the flight. How you do this is up to you.
4) You can time your own flight if you wish. You are on your honor. Time is truncated to the second. No fractions and no rounding. Read the seconds only.
5) Landing has to be within 100 feet of the original launch location or the flight does not count. Landing must be on the same level as the launch. Landing down the slope or up in the trees does not count. You must come to rest in a "normal" landing spot and be able to walk over and pick it up. I realize this can vary by slope site so you are on your honor as to whether this was a normal landing.
6) Time stops when the glider comes to a rest. So the clock keeps running if you clip a branch, or go to land and bounce back into the air. When the plane stops, time stops.
7) You can launch as many times as you like but each flight has to be from a fresh launch from the ground or hand. No powered reclimbs permitted. If you restart the motor the flight does not count.
8) Report your best time of the day by posting here. You can post as many times as you like, but only the best one will count. Try as many days as you like to get your best time of the month.
For either contest you report the results via post.

REPORT FORMAT
Your Name - Real or RCGroup Name - your choice
Glider/plane name and wingspan:
E Glider, Hand Launch or Slope:
Date and Time of flight:
Duration of flight:
Location: Nearest City and State or Country
Comments - You are welcome to report anything you like about the day, the flight. Pictures, videos, gps plots, etc are welcome but not required.

I will maintain the thread and keep the second post updated with the top 3 flight durations from each Class. Only one flight of each type will be recorded in the standings for each pilot. A new better time will replace the original.

THREAD CONTENT
While it's preferred that posts are about contest business; brief comments about items of common interest are welcome. This includes but is not limited to: new planes, safety warnings, tales of remarkable flights that might not be official entries, humorous incidents, well wishes for those facing health issues, the bloody weather, and messages of congratulation or conciliation. Short of your personal version of War and Peace all comments are welcome unless I receive multiple complaints.


ALL-TIME CONTEST RECORDS


2 Meter and under E Glider Class
Andy Grose (dee-grose)
Glider name:Radian
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight:April 19, 2012 11:20am
Duration of flight:1:38:04 (after 30 sec motor run)
Location:Tanner, Alabama
Max Altitude: 3028ft AGL


Open E Glider Class
MrE / Larry
Sailplane: Bubble Dancer
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight: 13 October 2013 2:30PM
Duration of flight: 1 hr 52 minutes 37 seconds
Location: Club field in Gig Harbor, Wa
Weather: Mostly clear, +55F, light variable winds


Hand Launch Class
xStatiCa (Adam)
Glider Binary IV DLG (1.5m)
May 14th, 2015
Time 5:48pm
Duration 75:49
New Port Richey, FL


Slope Class
744Drv
Sailplane: Radian Pro 2m
Discipline: Slope
Date time of launch: 26 Nov 12:57
Place: Lookout Hill overlooking Discovery Bay, Hong Kong
Conditions: E 5-10kts
Duration: 3 hrs 2 mins
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Nov 30, 2017, 08:38 AM
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2 Meter and under E Glider Class

Ernie B
Glider name:Gentle Lady
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flightecember 3 2017 10:20am
Duration of flight: 13:46(after 30 sec motor run)
Location:West Chicago, IL.
Max Altitude:
Conditions: 44F clear skies, beautiful day for December but the real fun flight was later as I was able to ride a wave off some trees and just surf back and forth at approx. 200 feet.

Chuck Linn
Glider name:Radian
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight: December 3 2017 12:50 pm
Duration of flight: 12:40 (after a embarrassingly bad 30 sec motor run)
Location: Fairport, NY
Max Altitude: unknown (though finally ordered my lemon receiver with vario, so I'll know someday)
Conditions: ~ 48 degrees, wind ~SW 3-6 mph, clear skies


Open E Glider Class

Bruce Clapperton
Glider name:Finezza
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight: 10 December 2017 12.30pm
Duration of flight: 25:44 (after 20 sec motor run)
Location:VARMS Field, Near Melbourne Australia
Max Altitude: 400 meters
Conditions: Beautiful day today with clear skies and winds light to variable.

AMA69405
Glider name: Aether 3.7m
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight: 12/19/17 1510 CST
Duration of flight: 20 minutes 51 seconds (after 27 sec motor run)
Location: Near Dexter, Kansas USA
Weather: 56F / Wind SSE 6-8 mph / overcast - 1400 ft ceiling / Baro 29.95 steady

Hand Launch Class



Slope Class

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Last edited by Curtis in Texas; Dec 24, 2017 at 04:42 PM.
Dec 02, 2017, 05:05 AM
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Rain Rain Go Away


Been raining all Month here.
Dec 02, 2017, 11:13 PM
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I missed the good lift today. It was all late afternoon.
Dec 03, 2017, 03:28 PM
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2 Meter and under E Glider Class
Ernie B
Glider name:Gentle Lady
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight: December 3 2017 10:20am
Duration of flight: 13:46(after 30 sec motor run)
Location:West Chicago, IL.
Max Altitude:
Conditions: 44F clear skies, beautiful day for December but the real fun flight was later as I was able to ride a wave off some trees and just surf back and forth at approx. 200 feet.

Ernie
Last edited by ernie b; Dec 04, 2017 at 06:42 AM.
Dec 04, 2017, 11:17 AM
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2 Meter and under E Glider Class

Chuck Linn
Glider name:Radian
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight: December 3 2017 12:50 pm
Duration of flight: 12:40 (after a embarrassingly bad 30 sec motor run)
Location: Fairport, NY
Max Altitude: unknown (though finally ordered my lemon receiver with vario, so I'll know someday)
Conditions: ~ 48 degrees, wind ~SW 3-6 mph, clear skies

Still learning how to do good, reliable launches - trying for a stable moderate climb angle, but between one thing and another I end up with a model nearly overhead, then lose pitch control, just as likely to be headed downwards before I get scared, kill the motor and fly the plane. Practice will make "better", though. Once gliding, however, all was well - on one trial found a loosely connected series of weak/moderate thermals with limited height. But, on such a nice day, what's not to like!
Dec 04, 2017, 09:18 PM
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Howdy and welcome Chuck.

Yeah, the standard 2m Rad doesn't fly well on the prop so other than minor bumps to hit my landing, I'm rarely on anything other than WOT. Just nail it and go for near vertical climb and let it loop over to level flight cutting throttle at the top of loop or, before cutting the throttle, push the nose down level.

Full disclosure; my Rad has LEDs for night enjoyment and it's not exactly trimmed optimally.
Dec 09, 2017, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fdsailor
2 Meter and under E Glider Class

Chuck Linn
Glider name:Radian

Still learning how to do good, reliable launches - trying for a stable moderate climb angle, but between one thing and another I end up with a model nearly overhead, then lose pitch control, just as likely to be headed downwards before I get scared, kill the motor and fly the plane. Practice will make "better", though. Once gliding, however, all was well - on one trial found a loosely connected series of weak/moderate thermals with limited height. But, on such a nice day, what's not to like!
My guess would be a mix down elevator to throttle, perhaps 2-3.

Ernie
Dec 09, 2017, 11:23 PM
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Open E Glider Class
Bruce Clapperton
Glider name:Finezza
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight: 10 December 2017 12.30pm
Duration of flight: 25:44 (after 20 sec motor run)
Location:VARMS Field, Near Melbourne Australia
Max Altitude: 400 meters
Conditions: Beautiful day today with clear skies and winds light to variable.

Had a second flight of 24 minutes later - doh!
Dec 09, 2017, 11:41 PM
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Nice Bruce. Glad you got a chance to fly.
Dec 14, 2017, 05:53 PM
Gary L

Open E Glider entry


AMA69405
Glider name: Aether 3.7m
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight: 12/14/17 1500 CST
Duration of flight: 13 minutes 39 seconds (after 27 sec motor run)
Location: Near Dexter, Kansas USA
Weather: 47F / Wind N 8 mph / high thin clouds / Baro 30.09 steady

With "feels-like" in the low 40's F and flight delays on the field due to problems with a failing battery, I just did the one flight today. Tried to stay with a decent little thermal I found 6 minutes in, but it took me directly towards the sun, so I gave it up long before I wanted to. Traveling back upwind, I found what appeared to be the top of a small bubble, but it collapsed after a minute or so.
Dec 19, 2017, 05:16 PM
Gary L

Open E Glider entry


AMA69405
Glider name: Aether 3.7m
Thermal or Slope: Thermal
Date and Time of flight: 12/19/17 1510 CST
Duration of flight: 20 minutes 51 seconds (after 27 sec motor run)
Location: Near Dexter, Kansas USA
Weather: 56F / Wind SSE 6-8 mph / overcast - 1400 ft ceiling / Baro 29.95 steady

A pleasant surprise... meaningful lift found on a day that had started completely socked-in (fog and total overcast). The fog lifted mid-morning, but the low ceiling and total overcast continued all day, not even a shred of sunlight. In fact we only gained 6* F between dawn and mid-afternoon, but it was apparently enough to generate some decent lift, however short-lived it may have been.
Dec 23, 2017, 12:26 PM
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THREAD CONTENT
While it's preferred that posts are about contest business; brief comments about items of common interest are welcome. This includes but is not limited to: new planes, safety warnings, tales of remarkable flights that might not be official entries, humorous incidents, well wishes for those facing health issues, the bloody weather, and messages of congratulation or conciliation. Short of your personal version of War and Peace all comments are welcome unless I receive multiple complaints.
I'm going to remove this section from the next thread unless y'all feel it should remain.
Dec 23, 2017, 01:38 PM
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I'm going to remove this section from the next thread unless y'all feel it should remain.
You da man... I'm neutral.
Dec 23, 2017, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Curtis in Texas
I'm going to remove this section from the next thread unless y'all feel it should remain.
Hey Curtis

Since you have been doing this for a few months, I say sure use your best judgement!

Ernie


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