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Nov 15, 2017, 09:16 PM
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PSS (glass & EPP) gliders, F3X (composite & CF) and Drones


Thats pretty much what I fly.

and a few other slope gliders thrown in...



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Nov 26, 2017, 01:52 PM
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new transmitter.
Spektrum DX 18 Generation 2


The Futaba transmitters will hang around for a little longer but pretty soon I won’t need them and I will only be using the DX 18.
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Feb 12, 2018, 09:13 PM
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Point Fermin, CA
Forecast here:
https://www.windfinder.com/weatherfo...rbor_view_park

Real Time value (unless broken, check date and time) here:
http://www.mxsocal.org/weather.html

Add 5 to 10 mph for cliff edge. Forecast is more of a rough indication of what could happen, not always accurate.
Jul 30, 2018, 08:34 PM
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Aris HN 3meter at Lilly Shappel Orange County & Bill’s Hill San Diego
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Sep 20, 2018, 03:25 PM
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Load out for AP jobs.
Oct 06, 2018, 12:35 PM
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Baudismodel Trinity 3.3 meter at Lilly Shappel Orange County & Bill’s Hill San Diego.
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Jan 17, 2019, 02:31 AM
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Did a new group shot now that I have a couple of new editions to the fleet.

Back row: Inspire 1 Pro with X5R, Inspire 2 with X5S
Middle row: Phantom1, Phantom2, Phantom3A, Phantom4Pro
Front row: Mavic1Pro, Mavic2Pro flanked by two DJI F450 quads.



and the 2nd pic is of the 4 I use the most
I2,I1,M2P,P4P



Besides the ones pictured i used to have
3 DJI F550
2 DJI F450
Phantom 2 Vision
Phantom 2 Vision+
Phantom2
Phantom 3 Standard
Mavic Air
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Mar 13, 2019, 10:04 AM
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3.8 meter Explorer 2
May 21, 2019, 05:10 PM
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I decided to go through all of my gliders and do a full inventory and record the wingspan and all up weight.
it is quite often I am on the slope and someone asks how much does that glider weigh and or what is the wing span, Now I can just reference this list and tell them.


1. P-51 Red & Silver foam 66 inches 65 ounces
2. P-51 Old Blue foam 66 inches 75 ounces
3. P-51 Green & Silver foam 66 inches 84 ounces
4. LEG P-40 foam 60 inches 70 ounces
5. LEG Airacobra foam 48 inches 34 ounces
6. LEG ME-109 foam 48 inches 36 ounces
7. Focke-Wolf FW-190 foam 33 inches 11 ounces
8. P-47 foam 41 inches 23 ounces
9. YP-37 foam 73 inches 105 ounces
10. T-33 foam 74 inches
11. Combat Wing foam 48 inches

12. ME-109 glass 48 inches 27 ounces
13. DC-10 glass 61 inches 65 ounces
14. P-40 glass 56 inches 64 ounces
15. Zero glass 52 inches 42 ounces
16. Big BD-5 glass 48 inches 47 ounces
17. Small BD-5 glass 44 inches 18 ounces
18. P-51 glass new version 48 inches 47 ounces
19. Small Tucano glass 46 inches 48 ounces
20. Big Tucano glass 54 inches 56 ounces
21. Spitfire glass 44 inches 44 ounces
22. P-51 glass Dutchy 49 inches 42 ounces
23. Macchi glass (Joe) 61 inches 128 ounces that is 8 pounds!
24. ME 109 glass (Joe) 47 inches 54 ounces
25. AiraCobra glass 48 inches 40 ounces
26. Zephyr glass 48 inches 40 ounces
27. Zephyr glass 51 inches 52 ounces


28. Weasel Evo foam 35 inches 24 ounces
29. Weasel Trek foam 35 inches 10 ounces
30. Ahi foam 47 inches 18 ounces
31. Libelle foam 47 inches 10 ounces
32. Alula foam 35 inches 6 ounces
33. Le Fish foam 65 inches 30 ounces
34. KA-8 foam 88 inches 31 ounces
35. Fox foam 65 inches 15 ounces
36. Hobie Hawk Purple 98 inches 42 ounces
37. Hobie Hawk Orange 98 inches 41 ounces
38. Hill Racer glass 42 inches 19 ounces
39. Mamba Combat Wing foam 48 inches 22 ounces
40. Easy Glider foam 71 inches 29 ounces
41. ASW-28 foam 63 inches 38 ounces -- motorized glider--
42. Conscendo 1.5M 59 inches --motorized glider--


43. Xplorer2 3.8 meter 149 inches 60 ounces
44. Trinity 3.3 meter 129 inches 98 ounces
45. Trinity 3 meter 118 inches (((need to finish building)))
46. Aris HN 3 meter 118 inches 83 ounces
47. Wizard 2x Compact 2.5 meter 98 inches 70 ounces
48. Erwin 5 2 meter 80 inches 60 ounces
49. Opus 2 meter glass 75 inches 52 ounces
50. Opus 2 meter carbon 75 inches 54 ounces
51. Opus 2 meter carbon 75 inches 62 ounces
52. Carbon Bird Blue 59 inches 32 ounces
53. Carbon Bird Yellow 59 inches 31 ounces
54. Ventus 2c scale ship 3 meter 118 inches 54 ounces
55. Carbon Jester 60 inch 26 ounces



And this is what I have unbuilt still new in box.

56. Windrider Fox foam glider
57. Parkzone KA-8 foam glider
58. LEG P-51 60 inch foam glider
59. DAW Schweizer 1-26 foam glider
60. Dream Flight Ahi glider
61. Dream Flight Ahi glider
62. Dream Flight Libelle glider
63. Dream Flight Libelle glider

Grand total 63

Too many I know, but this has been my favorite hobby for over 28 years.

I have gotten out of all electric power park flyer airplanes. I had a bunch of those also over the years.

I only fly gliders now.

All aircraft are in my Spektrum DX18 and all are backed up to an external hard drive.


I am also a Drone pilot
as far as drones I have
1. DJI F-450
2. DJI F-450
3. DJI F-550
4. DJI F-550
5. DJI F-550
6. Phantom1
7. Phantom FC-40
8. Phantom2
9. Phantom 2 Vision
10. Phantom 2 Vision+
11. Phantom 3 Standard
12. Phantom 3 Advanced
13. Phantom4Pro
14. Mavic Air
15. Mavic1Pro
16. Mavic2Pro
17. Inspire1Pro with X5Raw
18. Inspire2 with X5S
19. Mini 2


I had a total of 19 DJI drones.

I have sold or given away most of them, now down to 5 total drones.

The Phantom 1
The Phantom 4 Pro
The Inspire 1 Pro
The Mavic 2 Pro
The Mini 2



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Mar 07, 2020, 01:47 PM
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Just storing some pics from my website here.

In case I need to reference them to rebuild the site.

For now I am pulling the site down.
Nov 10, 2020, 12:40 PM
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CG Location by Dr. Mark Drela

CG Location Contrary to popular myth, airfoils do not have "ideal" CG locations -- airplanes do. The CG location should mainly depend on the wing planform, the tail arm, and the tail size. The wing airfoil is secondary.

Another myth is that the glider's performance (L/D, sink rate, penetration, whatever) is strongly affected by CG position. It just ain't so. You might see the L/D change by only a few percent after a drastic CG change, assuming the elevator trim and/or decalage are readjusted correctly. The big effect is on handling and pitch behavior, which is far more important than a few percent in sink rate when flying in active air.

Where you want the CG to be should depend on personal preference and flying style. Some people fly with the CG well forward. Others seem to fly with the CG as far back as is tolerable.

To decide what's best for you, a good approach is to first identify the aftmost neutrally-stable CG location by dive test or whatever. Then move the CG ahead of that point by gradual amounts, until the glider behaves as you like.

So what to watch for? As a guide, here are some behavior pros and cons at the two extremes of the CG range. The idea is to strike a nice balance.

1) CG at the aft limit... glider continues in a straight line or tucks in very slightly when put into a dive from a slow glide.

Pro: Glider will strongly pitch up and slow down, or "balloon", when flying directly into the slightest lift, and dive down and speed up when flying directly out of lift. Obviously this behavior is a nice weak lift indicator, especially when very far away or directly overhead where you can't easily tell if the glider is going up or down. This type of "lift ahead" or "lift behind" indication via pitch change and airspeed is a good addition to the usual "lift to the side" indication via banking.

Con: Glider will not hold pitch trim, but will tend to stall or dive at the slightest disturbance. Lots of work is needed to constantly twiddle with the elevator. In turbulent thermals you have to fly faster than ideal to avoid occasional stalls.

2) CG well forward of aft CG limit... glider pulls out very quickly when put into a dive.

Pro: Glider will solidly hold pitch trim and airspeed, even in turbulence. When in a thermal, this allows flying nice and slow at minimum sink, with little risk of stalling from an upset.

Con: Glider has little tendency to pitch up and slow down when flying straight into lift, but just plows steadily along. It will still directly rise in lift while staying level, but again this is not as obvious as a pitch change when directly overhead or very high up. The "lift to the side" indication via banking is unaffected, and should not enter into the CG position decision.
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May 30, 2023, 11:02 AM
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Google maps directions to Cajon.


https://www.google.com/maps/dir/34.3...11762c!1m0!3e0
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May 30, 2023, 11:04 AM
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This is what we use for Cajon weather.

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...unit=0&dd=&bw=
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Feb 11, 2024, 09:56 PM
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48 total gliders


1. P-51 Red & Silver foam 66 inches 65 ounces
2. P-51 Old Blue foam 66 inches 75 ounces
3. P-51 Green & Silver foam 66 inches 84 ounces
4. LEG P-40 foam 60 inches 70 ounces
5. LEG Airacobra foam 48 inches 34 ounces
6. YP-37 foam 73 inches 105 ounces
7. T-33 foam 69 inches 49 ounces
8. Combat Wing foam 48 inches 24 ounces
9. Mamba Combat Wing foam 48 inches 22 ounces

10. ME-109 glass 48 inches 27 ounces
11. DC-10 glass 61 inches 65 ounces
12. P-40 glass 56 inches 64 ounces
13. Big BD-5 glass 48 inches 47 ounces
14. P-51 glass TFLG version 48 inches 47 ounces
15. Small Tucano glass 46 inches 48 ounces
16. Big Tucano glass 54 inches 56 ounces
17 Spitfire glass 44 inches 44 ounces
18. P-51 glass Dutchy version 49 inches 42 ounces
19. ME 109 glass (Joe) 47 inches 54 ounces
20. Zephyr glass 48 inches 40 ounces
21. Zephyr glass 51 inches 52 ounces


22. Weasel Trek foam 35 inches 10 ounces
23. Ahi foam 47 inches 18 ounces
24. KA-8 foam 88 inches 31 ounces
25. Fox foam 65 inches 15 ounces

26. Hobie Hawk Purple 98 inches 42 ounces
27. Hobie Hawk Orange 98 inches 41 ounces


28. Xplorer2 3.8 meter 149 inches 60 ounces
29. Trinity 3.3 meter 129 inches 98 ounces
30. Trinity 3 meter 118 inches (((need to finish building)))
31. Aris HN 3 meter 118 inches 83 ounces
32. Wizard 2x Compact 2.5 meter 98 inches 70 ounces
33. Erwin 5 2 meter 80 inches 60 ounces
34. Opus 2 meter glass 75 inches 52 ounces
35. Opus 2 meter carbon 75 inches 54 ounces
36. Opus 2 meter carbon 75 inches 62 ounces
37. Carbon Bird Blue 59 inches 32 ounces
38. Carbon Bird Yellow 59 inches 31 ounces
39. Ventus 2c scale ship 3 meter 118 inches 54 ounces
40. Carbon Jester 60 inch 26 ounces

41. 3D printed glider Roughgen 1.2M
42. 3D printed glider Mizmo Flying wing

And this is what I have unbuilt still new in box gliders.

43. Windrider Fox foam glider
44. Parkzone KA-8 foam glider
45. LEG P-51 60 inch foam glider
46. DAW Schweizer 1-26 foam glider
47. Dream Flight Ahi glider
48. Dream Flight Ahi glider

Too many I know, but this has been my favorite hobby for over 28 years.

All aircraft are in my Spektrum DX18 and all are backed up to an external hard drive.


I am also a Drone pilot
as far as drones I have 5 DJI drones

1. Phantom 1
2. Phantom 4 Pro
3. Inspire 1 Pro
4. Mavic 2 Pro
5. Mini 2



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