Democrats Fillibustered a Bill That Would Have Prevented The Latest Massacre In Texas - RC Groups
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Nov 08, 2017, 02:02 PM
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Democrats Fillibustered a Bill That Would Have Prevented The Latest Massacre In Texas


Democrats always want more gun control, but refused to pass a bill that would have prosecuted those that try to buy guns illegally. It also would have made the Air Force put this guy in the background check system, thereby preventing him from buying guns, and prosecuting him for trying.

"“We could have prevented this,” Cruz said, “in 2013 in the wake of Sandy Hook, I joined with Chuck Grassley, we introduced legislation that was called the Grassley-Cruz legislation. And it was aggressive legislation targeting felons and violent criminals to stop them from getting guns.”

“There were a couple of elements of that legislation that were critical,” he explained. “One, it mandated that federal agencies, including the Air Force, report to the NCIS because that was a problem back then.”

“But two, and this is an even more critical piece,” he added. “If it had been reported to the background database, when he went into academy to buy these weapons, he lied on the forms – that is a felony to lie on those forms.”

“The Obama administration didn’t prosecute those cases,” he continued. “In 2010, 40,000 felons and fugitives lied and illegally tried to purchase guns – they prosecuted only 44 of them.” "

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/11...lled-the-plug/
Nov 08, 2017, 02:12 PM
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..."when he went into academy to buy these weapons,..."
Wow! He got his guns from the academy? I don't know where to even begin.
Nov 08, 2017, 02:15 PM
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..."when he went into academy to buy these weapons,..."
Wow! He got his guns from the academy? I don't know where to even begin.
Never heard of academy sports? Maybe that is what he is referencing.

https://www.academy.com/shop/browse/shooting/firearms
Nov 08, 2017, 02:54 PM
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Never heard of academy sports? Maybe that is what he is referencing.

https://www.academy.com/shop/browse/shooting/firearms
Thanks. Without the "a" being capitalized, I had no clue (never heard of Academy).
Nov 08, 2017, 03:12 PM
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There are two failings in preventing the shooter from purchasing guns.... the Air Force as has been reported but the other is that if Obama's actions had been implemented sooner to prevent the mentally ill from buying guns. Remember... this guy had been institutionalized for a mental illness.

btw... one of Trumps first actions as president were to rescind the restrictions on the mentally ill to buy guns.
Nov 08, 2017, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AA5BY
There are two failings in preventing the shooter from purchasing guns.... the Air Force as has been reported but the other is that if Obama's actions had been implemented sooner to prevent the mentally ill from buying guns. Remember... this guy had been institutionalized for a mental illness.

btw... one of Trumps first actions as president were to rescind the restrictions on the mentally ill to buy guns.
No doubt a 2A right!
Nov 08, 2017, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AA5BY
There are two failings in preventing the shooter from purchasing guns.... the Air Force as has been reported but the other is that if Obama's actions had been implemented sooner to prevent the mentally ill from buying guns. Remember... this guy had been institutionalized for a mental illness.

btw... one of Trumps first actions as president were to rescind the restrictions on the mentally ill to buy guns.
Well, just to be clear, he should have been on the list in a couple of places, primarily the BCD he got and prison time in the AF, but also a violation of the (See link)

https://www.justice.gov/usam/crimina...uals-convicted



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Nov 08, 2017, 06:25 PM
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ok, so lets start digging here. He got a BCD and did a year in Military prison. It was for DV. Neither was reported to NICS but people around him who knew him knew that he did time for DV and probably the psyche ward escape as well (it's kinda hard to keep info like that from family and close friends). So those who were close to him KNEW about the Domestic violence conviction and his discharge and they probably knew he had guns but didn't say anything???? That's aiding and abetting a criminal and possibly a bunch of conspiracy charges as well.
Nov 08, 2017, 06:38 PM
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The bottom line is the laws already on the books are not being enforced which is what Democrats wanted in order to make it seem as though firearms are the problem in order to pass more gun grabbing legislation. In other words to create a problem that needs fixing so they can convince America they are doing their job. Enforce the damn laws already on the books congress.
Nov 08, 2017, 06:56 PM
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Democrats all backed the background check system, but then reneged on prosecutions of those who violate that law.
Nov 08, 2017, 07:18 PM
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So the bottom line in the mentally ill buying AR weapons is ??????????

Some states It is O K ? Others we do not enforce data up dates ? Others do not have the time or money to do all the checks needed ?

What is the reason for allowing NUT CASES to walk the gun stores & save a buck while they SLAUGHTER Americans.

Republicans decreasing monies for helping the mentally ill ?

Save money & give it to them ? Subsidies & tax cuts ?

Maybe a nut will take out some congress families ? Then we will find the money & treatment cells ?
Nov 08, 2017, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Barrow
Democrats all backed the background check system, but then reneged on prosecutions of those who violate that law.
Maybe in this case but both parties play that stupid political game of making a huge deal of a problem there are already laws on the books to cover.
Nov 08, 2017, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AA5BY
There are two failings in preventing the shooter from purchasing guns.... the Air Force as has been reported but the other is that if Obama's actions had been implemented sooner to prevent the mentally ill from buying guns. Remember... this guy had been institutionalized for a mental illness.

btw... one of Trumps first actions as president were to rescind the restrictions on the mentally ill to buy guns.
Obama's actions would have had no impact on this man's ability to buy a gun.
Nov 08, 2017, 07:23 PM
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It wasn't the democrats fault he got a gun. It's the fault of the government.
Nov 08, 2017, 07:25 PM
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Democrats all backed the background check system, but then reneged on prosecutions of those who violate that law.
It seems they had a problem with the private sales loophole your folks provided, did you read at all the links?


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