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Nov 07, 2017, 08:54 PM
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Roy Halladay dies in Icon crash


https://www.yahoo.com/news/plane-roy...234327786.html
Nov 07, 2017, 09:17 PM
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It's a REAL aircraft, not a jet ski with wings. He only had it 4 weeks. This "sport aircraft" classification marketing is a joke, and unfortunately Halladay has payed the ultimate price. For sure it'll be pilot error. RIP
Nov 07, 2017, 09:47 PM
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It's a REAL aircraft, not a jet ski with wings
More like a fancy ultralight on steroid!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICON_A..._and_incidents
Nov 07, 2017, 09:51 PM
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Apparently he had experience piloting other aircraft. My guess is the icon is so radically different and easy to fly that he let his guard down and it snuck up on him.
Nov 07, 2017, 10:00 PM
Really?
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Originally Posted by s2000
It's a REAL aircraft, not a jet ski with wings. He only had it 4 weeks. This "sport aircraft" classification marketing is a joke, and unfortunately Halladay has payed the ultimate price. For sure it'll be pilot error. RIP
More about the A5:

https://www.flyingmag.com/ntsb-relea...on-a5-accident

https://www.wired.com/2015/09/like-f...icon-a5-plane/
Nov 07, 2017, 10:30 PM
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He was being bold.
Nov 07, 2017, 11:51 PM
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I have a problem with blaming a manufacturer or design with no other evidence than three crashes in their first 25 aircraft. One was an obvious pilot error. Another was most likely pilot error, judging by the comment about skimming the water and him being relatively new to the aircraft. As far as the manufacturer claiming that it's a fun safe aircraft, well it sounds like it is, as long as you fly within the envelope and within your abilities. Too many times a person's poor decisions or bad judgment is placed squarely on the shoulders of those who have nothing to do with either, based solely on the desire to make someone else responsible for poor outcomes in our lives.
Nov 07, 2017, 11:51 PM
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It says the ballistic recovery parachute is mandatory in the US - no sign of it in the pics I saw.
Nov 08, 2017, 12:03 AM
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Sounds like another Thurman Munson.
Nov 08, 2017, 05:36 AM
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More pictures :http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2017/1...llc-fatal.html


HOLIDAY (FOX 13) - Former Major League Baseball star and aviation enthusiast Roy Halladay was killed in a plane crash off the coast of Pasco County this afternoon, shocking sports fans from Florida to Philadelphia.

The crash happened just after noon in the shallow waters of the Gulf of Mexico, just north of Bailey’s Bluff in Holiday. Deputies say a resident called 911 after seeing the aircraft crash into the water, but there were no reports of problems ahead of the crash, either from neighbors or the aircraft itself.

The view from SkyFOX over the scene showed a small white plane upside down in the water. The first boat to respond to the crash could not get to the plane because the area is so shallow, the Pasco County Sheriff's Office said, forcing them to call in a swift-water rescue team.

Halladay, 40, was a private pilot and had tweeted about the brand new amphibious sport plane that he liked to fly over the beach.

“I keep telling my dad flying the Icon A5 low over the water is like flying a fighter jet!” one tweet boasted.
Nov 08, 2017, 07:40 AM
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This is hitting our little community hard.

Halladay is a relatively experienced pilot. When he was pitching his team would not let him pilot. Since retirement he's been flying all over rescuing dogs that him and his wife would foster until they were healthy enough to be adopted.

He had two teenage boys that he helped with coaching their baseball teams. I think him and his wife have known each other since grade school.

A few years back he was my son's middle school Basketball coach. I joked with my son that he had the highest paid middle school coach in the country.

He was a good guy.

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The weather was absolutely perfect yesterday. The obvious guess would be pilot error, but we really don't know. It's would be easy to fly something like this low for fun and just make a quick mistake.
Nov 08, 2017, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cfircav8r
I have a problem with blaming a manufacturer or design with no other evidence than three crashes in their first 25 aircraft. One was an obvious pilot error. Another was most likely pilot error, judging by the comment about skimming the water and him being relatively new to the aircraft. As far as the manufacturer claiming that it's a fun safe aircraft, well it sounds like it is, as long as you fly within the envelope and within your abilities. Too many times a person's poor decisions or bad judgment is placed squarely on the shoulders of those who have nothing to do with either, based solely on the desire to make someone else responsible for poor outcomes in our lives.
Yes, personally I think it is also abut low time pilots wth lots of money getting in over their heads. There was another MLB player some years ago that was killed along with his instructor flying down the Hudson River in a high performance Cirrus down low. Just like the canyon Icon crash they were flying into a narrowing area, in this case with high rise buildings and not enough room to turn around, slamming into a high rise building when they realized to late their predicament, not enough room to make a 180.
Nov 08, 2017, 08:07 AM
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JFK Jr. Low time pilot and more money than brains. The list goes on and on.
Nov 08, 2017, 08:34 AM
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Wow, I hadn't heard he died. That's terrible.
Nov 08, 2017, 08:50 AM
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Flying low and fast is a bad idea. I know it can be fun but there is a reason that it is not standard practice, except perhaps for military aircraft where it serves a purpose. Altitude gives you some room for minor mistakes and it gives you time and range in an emergency.


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